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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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I really don't when a private company decides who gets air time and who doesn't. Oh well it's the world we live in.

Private companies already determine what you do with your waking hours and many other aspects of your life that you have to conform to or face homelessness or worse. This is only a smaller effect of control.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Comparing today's media, to the media of old - where they colluded to hide FDR couldn't walk because of the shame/and attacks it'd lead to now, where Tech companies overtook print media and now themselves control the pitchforks and direct anger at the masses. 1984 Two minutes of hate is real, so very real, and it's quite sad how most people welcomed this into the world. I've deleted my social media, twitters years be…

Trump gave Twitter the power though, so I don’t think his suspension supports your logic. He was the user who communicates only over Twitter, purposefully de-fragmenting it. He could e easily protected himself from this by publishing the same content across many different platforms.

The tech giants only have power when users give it to them. Trump could’ve negated their power very easily, without legislation.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

No, those precise justifications were born-out en masse today on Parler, /pol/, & 8kun.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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#WalkAway is a movement of ex liberals who have left the democrat party. Founded by a gay dude, majority blacks, hispanics, gay etc. Had over half a million users who shared their testimonials on why they left the democrat party. Facebook banned the group today along with the founder and all the members.... all 500K of them

If gays, blacks, hispanic conservatives aren't allowed, then soon they are coming after you.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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This has been an embarrassing incident to those in power because it made them look weak. But calling a populist movement with millions of supporters, terrorists is very short sighted. It will only accelerate the fire. The left soon will control all three branches of government, after an election that many people question, has been simultaneously advocating for censorship of its political adversaries, more draconian c…

What part of attempting to block a Constitutionally mandated process through the use of force is not a terrorist act?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Okay, let's retroactively suspend John McCain for singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran" on a hot mike. President George W. Bush should be suspended for invading Iraq on false or flimsy pretexts, resulting in 6,000 American soldiers killed and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Obama lied when he said "you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan" eleven times and this turned out not to be true (90% anyway). Sh…

If Gutenberg could've been pressured in to restricting what combinations of words were allowed in his press, the enlightenment ultimately may never have happened. Simple as that.

The problem is today's printing presses are not owned by the people who use them, and can be confiscated without warning or recourse.

The consequence will be the end of liberal society, but society will demand it.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

Free speech always requires qualifications: to foster a tolerant society you can't tolerate intolerance. Where the balance is, is hard to determine. Will Trump's supporters follow him to a new social network? Will more active moderation stem disinformation and restore civil, good-faith discourse? I don't know if platforms taking a more active role in shaping online discourse will be successful, but I know that it's essential to our society that we keep experimenting to find that balance.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Sorry to go off-topic, but is anyone else logged in to HN and experiencing very slow response times? Except for the times HN has gone down, I've never seen it take 5-10 seconds just to load the front page or any of the comment threads. I'm assuming it has something to do with so many users checking out this thread, which is pretty amazing for a Friday night. (viewing HN in logged out mode is much faster thanks to the…

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