Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
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#222While I tend to be a caring person, I recognize that some people are so broken that there is no hope for rehabilitation of them. Donald Trump clearly has been trying to seek approval and validation from people forever. Likely this began in his childhood, if accounts of his father's demeanor are to be believed. Also, given his father's characterization as a slum lord, there is little doubt in my mind that this is a family problem that has been passed down for some time; the fathers were mistreated and rejected as children, and likewise they are excessively hard on their children.
Donald Trump has been, likely out of human survival necessity, creating his own fantasy reality in his mind from a very young age. And frankly, with enough self delusion, one can truly believe anything. He appears to truly believe he was cheated, and that he has always been cheated. Ironically, the facts visible from the outside indicate that he is usually the one cheating others ("university" students, debtors, investors, constituents, etc.).
He is doomed, whether by New York State attorneys for his property tax cheats, or perhaps his inflated property sales (foreign money laundering), or other crimes. But more significantly, he is doomed because his character and behavior guarantees that he will never get the satisfaction and confirmation that he has been needing his entire life. It's actually quite sad. But frankly he is old, and he has fucked so many people against their wishes, literally and figuratively, that I have no compassion at this point. Let him burn, or drown in his own misery.
What is more disturbing is the mass of ignorant followers who have thrown their lives and families in turmoil because of him (and because of Fox News and its like). Some of my elder family are in that category. I remember them before this period, and I know they are ultimately good people; but somehow they need a serious readjustment. To use the really tired, annoying expression, they need to become "woke".
Social media better get a grip. It has a very difficult job, because there is no clear line where free speech becomes excessively false rhetoric and disinformation. But it does occur at some point, and it absolutely gets leveraged by groups with agendas. We have ample evidence of how social media has been used at least since 2015 by Russian-related groups to destabilize "democracies" (in quotes now because what was once believe to be a democracy has now been shown to be more of a "democracy as long as it doesn't includes stuff that really bothers us").
I see no easy solution here. The best solution is broader education, more travel and experience, and more connections with people outside our own little bubbles. But that's not going to happen. At this point I'm not willing to bet whether an environmental disaster or a geopolitical disaster will end human life first.
As for Donald Trump, I pity him and wish him to have exactly what he has now. Lots of stolen or debt-forgiven wealth, women who never want him for him, horrible golf skills, and tiny hands. Farewell.
Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
#223The reality is that Twitter didn't want to silence him as long as he was still president for political and business reasons. Now that it's clear his chances for a 2nd term have gone to 0, they just have no more backlash to fear. Those two tweets as reason for the suspension is a blatant farce.
So, sorry Twitter, I'm not buying it. To be credible you should have suspended the guy much earlier. Let the downvotes begin!
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#224If it matters I'm not an American citizen, have never set foot in the US (even though it's a country I admire in many ways, just right now I'm reading a selection of Anti-Federalist papers in order to try and understand it better), have grown up as a kid in Ceausescu's one-party state Romania and I have to tell you that this doesn't look good.
[1] https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1347592064322719744
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#226This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…
I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally
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#227Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
When I saw the cryptic 1 sentence tweet that he wasn't going to be there, the first thing that came to mind was that he was telling his supporters indirectly that they could do whatever they wanted since he wouldn't be in harms way. So perhaps it is a huge stretch to some, but we need to remember it is also not a stretch at all to many, especially given the recent events. Therein lies the danger.
But that was my immediate first thought, and likely that of a large number of folks.
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#228Violate the terms, get banned. That's fair.
Funny, that account isn't banned.
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#230Yes, I think this is actually it. After he basically commanded them to "Stop the Steal", I said that Facebook and Twitter would ban him. I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. If he is so unAmerican that he would actually tell his mob to attack the Capitol buildings, he really doesn't care about America at all. Being as petulant as he is, nuclear war is very much on the table. That's how crazy this situa…