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Post by microtherion »

jtxxwl wrote: post #650
nemothekid wrote: post #489

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Immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can vote.

Certainly not legally (until they become citizens), but their children can when they turn 18, and said immigration has been happening for many decades.

Indeed, but great-grandparent's assertions that said votes are reliably democratic are nonsense. Cuban-Americans tend to vote Republican (ask Marco Rubio), there are plenty of other Hispanics who vote Republican (ask Rafael "Ted" Cruz), and in fact, in the 2020 elections, Republicans have picked up votes in all sorts of immigrant communities (all the more remarkable, in my opinion, because it's hard to think how much less welcoming the party could be to immigrants).

And some of the most rabid Trump supporters are recent immigrants (cf the Epoch Times' role in the last years, or the fact that one of the arrested Capitol rioters, Yevgenya Malimon, mother of an Oregon Republican party official, needed a Russian interpreter at her arraignment).

Think of other right wing voices in the US: Peter Thiel (first generation immigrant), Ron Unz (second generation), Roosh V (second generation).

Meanwhile, one of the key demographics for Biden's win in Arizona was high turnout among — Native Americans, the Final Boss of non-immigrants.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by ardy42 »

mudil wrote: post #765
throwawaysea wrote: post #691

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Can you please provide evidence for the President inciting violence? I would also say that there are leftist politicians who are encouraging and inciting criminal acts. See this recent tweet from AOC ( https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1334184644707758080 ), where she excuses activists acting illegally because the "polite language policy game" (her words) didn't work for them. This is no less an act of incitement than T…

Exactly. Remember when this was OK? https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1047935416182235136?s=19

> Exactly. Remember when this was OK? https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1047935416182235136?s=19

Did they break into the offices and steal things?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by arolihas »

jtxxwl wrote: post #878
arolihas wrote: post #802

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The onus is on your side to show how this election was stolen. All of your rhetoric about the left hating trump is not evidence of any fraud. One could’ve said the same things about Hillary Clinton in 2016, who’s been reviled by the right for decades.

Where the onus lies is dependent on who you are and what your goals are. If you occupy an elected office, and you want people to believe that you were elected legitimately, then the onus is on you to convince the people of that, if they are skeptical. The burden of proof is not on them to convince themselves that you were elected legitimately. If you're arguing in a court case that the election was conducted illegiti…

What will make you think this election was fair? To me it seems like the only way Trump supporters and Trump will be convinced of the results is if they say he won.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by arolihas »

beerandt wrote: post #879
arolihas wrote: post #869

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I know elections aren’t court proceedings. But if you believe the results are unfair, then you’re implying some crime took place, namely fraud. You can prove that in court with a preponderance of evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt, but Lin Wood and Rudy Giuliani haven’t managed to do either. > The results (not the overturning) of elections must be believed to be fair with almost certainly, especially by the losing…

That a crime occured does not require you to first convict a criminal. And an election that was not properly conducted does not require that a crime be committed.

Alright, what do you want? Specifically, what will it take for you to believe the results of the presidential, senate, house, and local elections are legitimate?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by vladTheInhaler »

arolihas wrote: post #806
ng12 wrote: post #670

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The protesters left peacefully after a few hours. The senate isn't holy ground, nor are the people inside it divine. They work for us, after all. All things considered the events left me pretty unscathed.

4 people died.

Five, actually. Officer Brian Sicknick died as a result of wounds suffered during the conflict [1]. Details beyond that are still hard to find. This after Giuliani demanded "trial by combat" from the gathered mob. Hard to believe he will face justice though, given that Trump plans to pardon everybody and their mother.

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/08/capito...

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by MarcellusDrum »

Tokkemon wrote: post #516
rat87 wrote: post #175

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The question is if Reddit has gotten less extreme since banning them

Anecdotally, yes, it has on the whole.

Less right-wing extreme, yes, but it is not filled with left-wing extremists. As someone that has literally never been in the US and consider himself very left-leaning, the leftist echo chamber that reddit has become disgusts me. Posts that just say "Trump should be impeached" gets literally 50k+ upvotes. Any attempt to show any wrongdoing by a Dem gets downvoted and banned.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

lostmsu wrote: post #836
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #512

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Do not be so fast with 'not true' claims. Russia has at least three social networks, each with audience bigger than russian audience of Facebook and Twitter combined . All three remove anti-putin groups, etc.

AFAIK, VK does not yet remove anti-putin groups. Also, VK, OK, what's the third one? YouTube is prevalent over all of them regardless. I found data here: https://russiansearchmarketing.com/10-key-statistics-social-...

the third one is Moi Mir (https://my.mail.ru), an extension of by far the most popular email service in Russia. Mail.ru corporation actually owns all three of them.

VK absolutely does remove anti-putin groups and events. [1]

[1]: https://newsland.com/user/4297807604/content/vkontakte-zablo...

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by adolph »

mint2 wrote: post #746
ufmace wrote: post #710

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Let's play paraphrase and switch sides! The terrorists who have been rioting all across America for the last 6 months have a history of violence and connections to various far-left extremist and terrorist groups. They have roamed the cities carrying out attacks with bricks, molotov cocktails, blinding lasers, pepper spray, and other weapons. They have planted bombs and carried firearms. They have been endorsed wholeh…

Except what you’re saying is false. Democrats overwhelmingly condemned the riots and violence during the BLM protests. But most protests and protestors were peaceful and they supported those ones. If everyone is going to knowingly twist facts like your post does, there is no point in even trying to debate.

Snopes: Campaign staffers for U.S. Democratic 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden contributed to a bailout fund for protesters arrested after the police in-custody death of George Floyd.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-staffers-bailout-fun...

Harris, a former California state attorney general, asked the public to bail out protesters

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/reviewing-the-facts-in-ant...

Can you talk about rioting as a tactic? What are the reasons people deploy it as a strategy?

It does a number of important things. It gets people what they need for free immediately, which means that they are capable of living and reproducing their lives without having to rely on jobs or a wage — which, during COVID times, is widely unreliable or, particularly in these communities is often not available, or it comes at great risk. That's looting's most basic tactical power as a political mode of action.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by ng12 »

arolihas wrote: post #806
ng12 wrote: post #670

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The protesters left peacefully after a few hours. The senate isn't holy ground, nor are the people inside it divine. They work for us, after all. All things considered the events left me pretty unscathed.

4 people died.

An unarmed protester was gunned down by police.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #629
michaelmrose wrote: post #174

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If you wonder why they are threatened consider parler and the things people post there. Please forgive the language it is verbatim and I think threats of violence are more offensive than bad words. > You had better be ready partriots! It is go time very soon. We must attack all central communications to big cities are democratic cities. Fiber optics telecom bridges supply routes we can starve those motherfuckers to d…

Your anecdote is irrelevant, You can find all kinds of deranged behaviour on any platform. Speaking of gatekeepers, however, I wonder, how soon Google and Apple will boot Parler from their AppStores?

Called it:

"BREAKING: Apple is currently threatening to ban Parler -- the free speech alternative to Twitter -- unless the service enacts draconian censorship policies demanded by left-wing Big Tech oligarchs, according to two sources familiar with Apple's threats."

[1]: https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1347660160806825984

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