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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by t0mas88 »

brudgers wrote: post #404
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #380

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In the Netherlands there are a few entry ways and they look a bit like this: https://www.dormakaba.com/resource/blob/128222/7d74af646dce4... They're configured one-way only, can be fully opened for high through-put or emergencies, but are otherwise single-person only. They can detect multiple people in various ways. The default for sensitive areas would be biometric (e.g. weight, some parlement members coming back fr…

The US Capitol belongs to the people. There are risks from that which fall on the people who serve there. In counties with monarchs there are different traditions expressed by the architecture of public institutions and the seats of power.

Dutch Parliament has a visitors entrance and is (in non-covid times) easily accessible to the public. But for obvious security reasons their private offices are behind these kinds of locked doors. Since a few years I think you have to go through a metal detector to be allowed into the public areas.

It makes no sense at all that the US Capitol doesn't have stronger barriers between the public areas and the private offices. Every bank or other large company has such a setup for information security reasons.

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Post by folli »

eloff wrote: post #544
Forbo wrote: post #436

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For those downvoting this comment, here's a source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-si...

Hilarious, but definitely not a spy. The Russians aren't so amateur as to send an undercover agent to the US who can't speak English. If they missed the opportunity at the Capitol the other day to plant listening devices though, they must be kicking themselves now.

I'd say Russia definitely has at least a subset of very amateurish spies. An example coming to mind is the Skripal poisoning in Salisbury, UK.

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Post by mistermann »

tshaddox wrote: post #144
ashtonkem wrote: post #106

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Most days that’s fair. This week however, they should’ve had the unfriendly man with the M2. This was a predictable problem to literally everyone but the people in charge of protecting the capital.

According to some reports, the problem was in fact predicted, and that's why the National Guard chose not to prepare for forceful confrontation. Not wanting photos of armed uniformed soldiers in state buildings or some such.

The same was true for BLM protests. So, why the different treatment? Racism is a popular explanation, but is it a true explanation?

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Post by charonn0 »

tehjoker wrote: post #433
charonn0 wrote: post #398

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Even if such e-mails existed, by stealing the laptop they've tainted it as evidence except against themselves. i.e., You and the thief are similarly short sighted.

Also, as you may be aware, stolen emails have been able to be verified in the past. For one, you can ask the people implicated if they are real and look for contradictions between their stories or confirmations. You can check physical evidence if any exists. There are many things you can do. EDIT: My previous response, I misread your meaning at first. I don't care if they get prosecuted. They should be, they attempte…

> They should be, they attempted a coup against the democracy. However, as I said, what do I care if they destroy each other?

Political violence, once normalized, will inevitably be turned against its practitioners and supporters. Indifference in the face of this violence is nothing less than tacit approval of it, and invites reprisal.

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Post by lqet »

garfieldnate wrote: post #540
grogenaut wrote: post #279

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I worked on a barely do-not-distribute. Someone's spouse took a project member's laptop as hostage for alimony. Within 45 minutes of discovery and a phone call to the army equivalent of the FBI, agents were at the spouse's work and home searching for the laptop. Lucky for the spouse they thought it was the personal laptop (it was not marked) so they weren't prosecuted. This laptop could be much worse, or just fine.

Reminds me of this old "Professor Pwnage" video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4gVkprDej0

Do you have any information on how this ended?

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Post by vsssk »

rubycon22 wrote: post #267
jquery wrote: post #251

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> But man...you have to admit...there is something beautiful about the peasants entering the royal court, and the town idiot putting his feet up on the table that belongs to the Hand of the King. >The villagers entered the royal court and the senators clutched their pearls. I agree. Although I’m definitely anti-Trump and condemn his garbage about the election being stolen, and while I don’t condone the behavior of th…

Haha yeah, there wasn't this much outrage before because it was the peasant's businesses being destroyed. Protesting is now bad because it actually affected the rich, political class. Look at how different the MSM response was. Destroyed businesses and disruption to innocent people's lives was a necessary sacrifice for BLM riots. And best of all, covid is only dangerous depending on what you're protesting for. But so…

I don't understand how people can confidently draw such equivalencies. Just looking at the frequency of the two types of events.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_Un...

How many is that? I can't even count. More than 50, less than 100? Versus 10, possibly way less, depending on what kind of comparisons one wants to draw? [1]

Doesn't this point exactly to the significance of what happened on the 6th? Race riots have been happening in the United States for a hundred some years. They are obviously not significant in achieving the goals of the rioters. Meanwhile the storming of seats of power by an ousted leaders' supporters has the potential to change history. The former is a passing event, the latter is a rare event with some potential to change global history.

[1] https://www.livescience.com/political-violence-us-capital.ht...

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Post by 5555624 »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #480
ucha wrote: post #461

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It's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".

Never heard it called that. What I have heard is something along the lines of "confidential but unclassified" which seems more descriptive to me.

CUI -- Controlled, Unclassified Information (formerly FOUO - For Official Use Only)

As others have pointed out, Confidential is classified, the lowest classification level.

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Post by whytaka »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #552
californical wrote: post #393

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I’m sorry but if you’re a couple of police officers in a room full of literal terrorists, of course you’re going to try to be as restrained and friendly as possible. You’re horribly outnumbered. They would be murdered if they tried to take on the crowd. They needed to wait for reinforcements to arrive, and meanwhile do their best to keep the crowd from going fully insane. They managed the situation with very few peop…

If they are terrorists, would you support police opening live fire on them. Just curious. Seems like all the SJW are now advocating for a Tiananmen square massacre of unarmed protesters, just because the TV told them who to hate.

I don't recall the Tiananmen Square student protestors storming the National People's Congress.

Also, these insurrectionists were armed with bombs and had planned on taking hostages as pictures show.

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Post by valuearb »

MattGaiser wrote: post #124
slg wrote: post #7

>Nancy Pelosi told fellow House Democrats that she had received reassurances about safeguards to prevent Donald Trump from launching a nuclear attack Maybe this is too political or HN, but this is the bigger news on that page. It tells me we don't have a functioning chain of command and our government is currently responding to a hard coup attempt with a soft coup which is also pretty scary. Trump should either be re…

The safeguard could be as little as a majority of the cabinet + Pence saying they are willing to invoke the 25th if there is a nuclear attempt.

That would be a little late.

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Post by californical »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #552
californical wrote: post #393

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I’m sorry but if you’re a couple of police officers in a room full of literal terrorists, of course you’re going to try to be as restrained and friendly as possible. You’re horribly outnumbered. They would be murdered if they tried to take on the crowd. They needed to wait for reinforcements to arrive, and meanwhile do their best to keep the crowd from going fully insane. They managed the situation with very few peop…

If they are terrorists, would you support police opening live fire on them. Just curious. Seems like all the SJW are now advocating for a Tiananmen square massacre of unarmed protesters, just because the TV told them who to hate.

Lol no of course not. They tried to use force to terrorize the US government, so they could get their way. But they should be stopped with the minimum necessary force to prevent harm to others.

So I think the individual police officers (mostly) acted appropriately for the situation. The police organization’s planning was beyond negligent though.

You make a good point about some people’s response — the insanity caused by polarization clearly goes both ways, if there’s people saying everyone should’ve been shot. I’m kind of surprised more people weren’t shot though tbh. I always thought there were snipers and armed guards ready 24/7 around that whole area

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