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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Beyond the information security risk around the loss of this specific device, what really worries me is the physical security implications here. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but it seems to me like, in a building like the US Capitol, it should not be anywhere near this easy for unauthorized people to waltz into an office or conference room in the first place. Let alone walk away with items from within that…

I've traveled to countries before whose offices of government are behind very large fences, protected by unfriendly looking men standing behind heavy machine guns in armored vehicles – and the guide books are very clear that you are not to take photos of them. I much prefer the approach taken in the USA, where our offices of government are accessible to the people that the government serves. It's very good that I can…

They should beef up security. And keep it open. And not so obvious.

The simple fact of the matter is that a violent riot stormed the capitol building and nearly overwhelmed local forces. Congress asked for extra help and it wasn't provided. Governors asked if they could send in the guard to help and the man whom stoked the riot gave no permission.

It's a fucking miracle that January 6th wasn't one of the worst days in the history of the US.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#522

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yeah, i bet it has every presentation ever done sitting in good ol' ~/Documents or the desktop.

Does anyone use /Documents? That's just a folder where Apps like Acrobat put garbage files.

Well back in Win 98 I used "My documents" a lot ahah. Now on Windows 10 Documents/ is often automatically backed-up in Onedrive (it is for me) so I started using it for saving some documents that I want to back up in the cloud.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#523

> belonged to a conference room and was used for presentations Yikes. My first though was - oh this should be no big deal chances are there are good policies in place for laptops that go home with people. Then I realized it is a shared/central machine which means it probably has the most effed up and relaxed security in the fleet, post-it notes with passwords taped to the palm rests, and god knows what else. IT depar…

If it was a shared machine in a conference room, wouldn't it already physically be accessible to e.g. cleaning and other staff?

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#524

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This isn't the first mass protest in DC. Why is this the first time they were able to get into the Capitol while in session?

Wasn't a protest, it was an attempt at a coup. And the president set the game to easy level.

> attempt at a coup

You have a very very low bar for what you think an attempted coup was.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#525
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I'm surprised congressional office's laptops do not embed remotely detonated explosives/destruction devices triggered with sat or cellular comms.

You're surprised that politicians don't attach remotely detonated bombs to the laptops?

Considering the competence of most politicians, I think it would easily solve a lot of problems if they did.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#526

Beyond the information security risk around the loss of this specific device, what really worries me is the physical security implications here. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but it seems to me like, in a building like the US Capitol, it should not be anywhere near this easy for unauthorized people to waltz into an office or conference room in the first place. Let alone walk away with items from within that…

Looks to me like they stood down, being complicit with the insurrection. This often is how 3rd world nations are overthrown by dictators with the militarys help.

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#527

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IT should be able to revoke any access the machine has, so the only compromise would be what was already on the machine; which would be the case regardless of security policy, as they could just access the harddrive directly regardless of OS security policy. In practice, it wouldn't suprise me if that computer was locally storing passwords that were not specific to that machine, which might mean needing to revoke a b…

> as they could just access the harddrive directly regardless of OS security policy. I think that's wrong if you consider disk encryption.

From what I've read, full disk encryption was optional in the House until very recently. If this was a shared machine it's almost certainly not encrypted.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#528

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Except for that part where they murdered an unarmed Air Force veteran.

It's not murder if it's legal. If you don't want to get shot, don't invade the seat of government during a constitutionally prescribed transition of power, break through a barricade, ignore a cop's orders and approach a cop pointing his gun at you. Hard, I know.

This is almost exactly the same argument that police defenders make when the police shoot an unarmed minority individual in any random city.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#529

> belonged to a conference room and was used for presentations Yikes. My first though was - oh this should be no big deal chances are there are good policies in place for laptops that go home with people. Then I realized it is a shared/central machine which means it probably has the most effed up and relaxed security in the fleet, post-it notes with passwords taped to the palm rests, and god knows what else. IT depar…

If it was a shared machine in a conference room, wouldn't it already physically be accessible to e.g. cleaning and other staff?

Cleaning and other staff for secure locations still get background checks, training, etc. extremely different situation than people off the street.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#530
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"no big deal" A stolen laptop is usually not considered "no big deal" basically everywhere I worked.

Really? Every place I have worked with more than about 50 employees has used full drive encryption, so a laptop being stolen is not an infosec risk at all.

Yeah, me too. If they don't have this in 2021 their IT staff should be fired.
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