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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by chrisco255 »

rayiner wrote: post #250
djsumdog wrote: post #36

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The Capitol Police were either incompetent or complicit. There are literally no other options. They knew there would be a big protests, numbers put it around 200k~300k (a tiny percentage of which actually went into the capitol building mind you). If they weren't prepared for this: incompetence. But there are videos of people getting selfies with guards, and staying within the velvet ropes when coming in. Something is…

The Capitol Police generally don’t (and aren’t equipped to) repel a mob entering the building. That wasn’t just for this event. It’s always like this. Trump’s “show of force” during the BLM protests (where he brought in the national guard) was an aberration for that reason.

This isn't the first mass protest in DC. Why is this the first time they were able to get into the Capitol while in session?

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Post by larrywright »

There was a great thread on Twitter about the infosec implications of this breach of the capitol. In short, you have to assume foreign state actors were among the people inside, and every piece of technology should be replaced.

https://twitter.com/jacobian/status/1347001812889452545?s=20

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Post by Fuzzwah »

brudgers wrote: post #404
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #380

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In the Netherlands there are a few entry ways and they look a bit like this: https://www.dormakaba.com/resource/blob/128222/7d74af646dce4... They're configured one-way only, can be fully opened for high through-put or emergencies, but are otherwise single-person only. They can detect multiple people in various ways. The default for sensitive areas would be biometric (e.g. weight, some parlement members coming back fr…

The US Capitol belongs to the people. There are risks from that which fall on the people who serve there. In counties with monarchs there are different traditions expressed by the architecture of public institutions and the seats of power.

Just because something belongs to the people does not mean that 1,000 of them need to be able to rush into it.

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Post by Gibbon1 »

chrisco255 wrote: post #501
rayiner wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Capitol Police generally don’t (and aren’t equipped to) repel a mob entering the building. That wasn’t just for this event. It’s always like this. Trump’s “show of force” during the BLM protests (where he brought in the national guard) was an aberration for that reason.

This isn't the first mass protest in DC. Why is this the first time they were able to get into the Capitol while in session?

Wasn't a protest, it was an attempt at a coup. And the president set the game to easy level.

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Post by thesuitonym »

californical wrote: post #393
hwillis wrote: post #323

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Presumably the same reason police moved barricades, waved them in, and took selfies with them.

I’m sorry but if you’re a couple of police officers in a room full of literal terrorists, of course you’re going to try to be as restrained and friendly as possible. You’re horribly outnumbered. They would be murdered if they tried to take on the crowd. They needed to wait for reinforcements to arrive, and meanwhile do their best to keep the crowd from going fully insane. They managed the situation with very few peop…

They had no problem tear gassing protesters this summer even though they were outnumbered.

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Post by rootusrootus »

ucha wrote: post #461
ptd wrote: post #337

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What is a “barely do-not-distribute?”

It's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".

We used to just call that "confidential".

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Post by notretarded »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #480
ucha wrote: post #461

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It's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".

Never heard it called that. What I have heard is something along the lines of "confidential but unclassified" which seems more descriptive to me.

Metaphorically speaking. I.e. not quite DnD, but likely would want to be contained

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Post by jsjohnst »

deathgrips wrote: post #495
jsjohnst wrote: post #469

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> And you assume that's everything that happened? There's multiple camera angles which captured the minutes leading up to her death, posted on major news sites like The Washington Post, so no assumption needed. I still don't feel the shoot to kill was justified (especially as a shot in an area that would immobilize a person, like the chest or the gut, would've been safer of collateral damage vs a shot to the head, si…

You betray your ignorance about firearms. You cannot shoot to immobilize. Every shot taken is practically and legally a shot intending to kill. Real life is not a hollywood movie.

> You betray your ignorance about firearms. You cannot shoot to immobilize. Every shot taken is practically and legally a shot intending to kill. Real life is not a hollywood movie.

Someone knowledgeable of the subject, which you imply I am not, would know that shooting someone in the middle of their body is the standard operating procedure (and is potentially less fatal, but yes legally still intended to kill) rather than taking an (essentially) headshot as this officer did.

Also notice I did not say what the officer did was "against policy" or illegal, I simply said I didn't feel it was justified (especially with where the shot hit). It's for the department and the courts to decide if the officer violated his duty.

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

avgDev wrote: post #291
coldcode wrote: post #24

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Not the brightest of bulbs, I bet they closed it to carry it away.

So, I was surprised to hear this, among the people who entered the building was a CEO of a tech company from a town close to me. There were smart people in that group.

1) Don't assume CEOs are smart.

2) Don't assume tech people are smart.

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