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Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)
Is it just me or is downvoting tdons' comment bad form given YC's guidelines? Is there something I'm missing here?
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> people literally overthrowing the democratically elected government of the US. The hysterics in this thread are pretty rich.
There were 2-3 guys with pistols between congress and the mob. It only would have taken a minimally organized armed group, or even one person with an AR-15 to inflict casualties on congress and/or take it hostage.
> Many scholars consider a coup d'état successful when the usurpers seize and hold power for at least seven days.
They didn't seize and hold power for any time whatsoever. They had no plan. They had no organization. They did not execute a plot in any way. They were rioters. There was nothing close to what could be constituted as overthrowing of the government.
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"Censorship" seems to work pretty well around here in HackerNews. When someone's opinion becomes violent or unhelpful, the mods around here will delete their post, curtailing discussion and making this area more reasonable for overall discourse to move forward. There are unreasonable opinions and unreasonable people out there. The only possible weapon online groups have to combat unreasonable people in a discussion f…
Successes to an ends for censorship doesn't make it any more ethical. China is a pretty strong economy right now - that doesn't make the CCP's aggressive forms of censorship any more just or ethical.
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I don't read or follow thedonald.win, but I share your general feelings of apprehension for the well being of anyone who consumes CNN, MSNBC or NYT hoping to be accurately informed.
The MSM can't be compared to QAnon and OANN related media. One has professional standards, the other starts conspiracy theories.
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Perhaps we should leave up ISIS recruitment videos, so users in liberal echo chambers can hear that differing opinion as well. /s This is not a new or exciting phenomenon. Censorship and “cancel culture” have rich histories on all sides of the American political spectrum.
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That's what they are though. One side of my family are full-on conservative Trump supporters and I know for a fact that's exactly who they are.
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/896/censorship > In general, sedition is defined as trying to overthrow the government with intent and means to bring it about; the Supreme Court, however, has been divided over what constitutes intent and means. > These acts made it a federal crime to speak, write, or print criticisms of the government that were false, scandalous, or malicious. It is frightening to me tha…
There's no evidence for election fraud due to a combination of officials and media intentionally not searching for it, and events that make it difficult or impossible to determine that fraud actually ocurred. As an example of the latter: Georgia election officials intentionally deceived journalists and (Republican) observers into leaving a vote-counting event by lying to them and telling them that they were done for…
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/facebook-p...
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Immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can vote.
Certainly not legally (until they become citizens), but their children can when they turn 18, and said immigration has been happening for many decades.
What else is new, censorship is OK as long as only one side is doing it.
You say this after the president of the United States has incited a seditious, violet mob to attack the Capitol because he's a sore loser. There are many examples you can pick if you want to point out bias in media, day before yesterday was not one. For reference, conservative subreddits remain active, Donald Trump is the one that's banned.
- Nancy Pelosi
You know what scares the shit out of me, to use your phrasing? The people on that site murdering me or overthrowing the government, so that they seize power and elections end or become irrelevant. “The free Internet” has value, but it’s not the only thing that has value. When it conflicts with other values, then there has to be a nuanced resolution.
I think part of the problem is that on many issues elections are already irrelevant. If I'm an American and I want the US to withdraw from Afghanistan, who do I vote for?
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There may be benefits, but the harm - real and potential - dwarf anything you've listed.
That's not an argument, it's a claim. And it also is shifting the goalpost from the original post, but you're not the same person so that seems fair.