What an absolute mess. Whatever political spectrum you might be on, having people roaming around the halls of a sensitive government institution is not in the interest of any US citizen. Security of our institutions, elections and democracy should be a non-partisan issue.
Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.
> insurrectionists Peaceful protestors. Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists? Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get fede…
> The overreaction to what happened is fucking insane, especially compared to what actual Rioters where allowed to get away with for the past year. In May, DC was literally on fire from the BLM riots, and we didn't see this type of DoubleSpeak.
Not really when you consider that the protests in may were for the correct side with the media and elites fully on board. They were for all intents and purposes sanctioned events. The 6th mob was absolutely terrifying for the media and elite since they had zero control over it. What looks like just another mob riot to a common peasant appears to be an actual threat to those which never see threats.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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I bet it won't be, cause it's congress. I'm no small stater, but we need to find a way to put the interesting stuff back in democratic control...like a parliamentary system that recognizes executive vs legislative division is a bad idea.
It’s not just Congress, it’s Nancy Pelosi. Mitch McConnell’s documents would be similarly interesting. I’d love to see how these two speak to their donors and each other vs how they speak to the public, for example.
I am kind of curious about that. Are they allowed to use the same computer for official business and campaign work? I know a fuss was made in the past about someone using the wrong phone in the White House. In theory donor interactions should be done on non-publicly funded devices. Though I doubt that actually stops them. I am curious what policy actually states.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#284Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bet it won't be, cause it's congress. I'm no small stater, but we need to find a way to put the interesting stuff back in democratic control...like a parliamentary system that recognizes executive vs legislative division is a bad idea.
It’s not just Congress, it’s Nancy Pelosi. Mitch McConnell’s documents would be similarly interesting. I’d love to see how these two speak to their donors and each other vs how they speak to the public, for example.
> I’d love to see how these two speak to their donors and each other vs how they speak to the public, for example.
All you need to do is look at the stimulus bill. It's full of "I'll give you this if you give me that" items.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#286What an absolute mess. Whatever political spectrum you might be on, having people roaming around the halls of a sensitive government institution is not in the interest of any US citizen. Security of our institutions, elections and democracy should be a non-partisan issue.
Why would it be of the interest of any US citizen for elected officials to have any "secret" ?
Full transparency should be paramount.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#287It was apparently stolen from a conference room and used only for presentations. Still a bad look for Capitol Police and physical security operations.
Snowden's leaks were largely NSA presentation materials. Not implying that Pelosi had TSCI/noforn materials but just saying, being used as presentation doesn't mean much. Especially if it's connected to internal networks.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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The presentation machines at my workplace (in addition to being desktops in a locked cabinet, because why would they leave the room?) just allow you to remote desktop back to your real workstation or to a VM. They have nothing locally. I think that's a good solution to avoiding over-granting privileges.
How can you lock up Windows like that?
I don't know what the best practice for doing this would be but I would change the default shell from explorer to mstsc (the terminal services/remote desktop client) and disable task manager and internet explorer. I don't think that would perfectly lock it down, but it would do the job for ~90% of use cases.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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For this specific decision I think we can put it down to incompetence over malice - it'd presumably be easy for whoever was co-ordinating it dismiss all the riot talks as bluster and figure it'd just be yet another protest with a lot of shouting. I imagine we'll hear more about it, but I would be surprised if it was a co-ordinated effort in concert with the rioters (I don't know what to call them). The footage of pol…
If it is reasonable to assume that some individual members of the police force are sympathetic to the Q/Boogaloo cause, who is to say the person responsible for coordinating with the Pentagon wasn't a fellow traveler? Police forces, on the whole aren't exactly politically neutral: during primary season, I recall a republican politician getting a picture taken with a policeman who had a "Q" patch on his uniform. There…
They definitely deserve answers, you are right. But jumping to "This was an op and the DC police as a unit were in on it" is approaching wheelhouse of the crazies who instigated this whole debacle. That runaway cascade of believing lots of little things that could be possible is what led to millions believing in dumb stuff like Mole Children being kept as slaves by Hillary Clinton and friends.
Unless something more sinister emerges the simplest explanation is probably the best - there some cops who are far-right sympathisers and there are incompetently managed and organized Police forces. Both of those things are already demonstrably true and explain how the response quite well without introducing a grand conspiracy.
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#290I feel sorry for whoever gets caught with it. They won't be charged with theft - they'll probably try to hit them with the worst cybersecurity charges they can dig up.
Good, they deserve it.