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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by kelchqvjpnfasjl »

amyjess wrote: post #111
djsumdog wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Capitol Police were either incompetent or complicit. There are literally no other options. They knew there would be a big protests, numbers put it around 200k~300k (a tiny percentage of which actually went into the capitol building mind you). If they weren't prepared for this: incompetence. But there are videos of people getting selfies with guards, and staying within the velvet ropes when coming in. Something is…

They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.

I could pull up pictures of police kneeling with BLM this summer.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by mekkkkkk »

cabaalis wrote: post #161
nostromo wrote: post #115

Albeit ill-gotten gains, if this lands in Wikileaks’ hands it’ll be fascinating.

You'd never see any of it. Depending upon who it damages, it either (a) wouldn't be published, or (b) it would be suppressed by media outlets for violating some obscure policy.

I think both of those are invalid if we're talking about WikiLeaks, no?

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by jspash »

the-dude wrote: post #174
simonh wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it’s a shared machine for projecting notes, chances are it has nothing stored locally.

Or everything from everybody. We just don't know.

presentation-2-Rewrite.pdf.bak.PPT

presentation-BROKEN.PPT

anotherpresentation.doc

cantopen_presentaion-dontdelete,PPT

MOMs_COOKIE_RECIPE.doc

caterpillar french fry funny.bmp

and so on...

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by amyjess »

kelchqvjpnfasjl wrote: post #221
amyjess wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.

I could pull up pictures of police kneeling with BLM this summer.

Inviting insurrectionists into the capitol to stop the certification of an election they didn't like by force is different from... giving their support to people who are against unarmed black people being murdered on sight.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by 121789 »

mistermann wrote: post #116
ashtonkem wrote: post #106

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Most days that’s fair. This week however, they should’ve had the unfriendly man with the M2. This was a predictable problem to literally everyone but the people in charge of protecting the capital.

This makes it sound like the people in charge of protecting the capital did not know that this was a legitimate threat. From the articles I've read, they did in fact help that it was a legitimate threat, which raises the question: why did they do nothing about it?

The only reasonable conclusion I can think of is that the security team had no worry that politicians would be in any danger (e.g. easy, isolated, fast escape routes) and that it would be hard to rationalize to bring out the troops/big security forces with a threat of violence for a group of people that was supported by the current president and a significant fraction of congress and the senate. The whole situation feels very strange and it feels like I'm missing some key facts.

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Post by dvirsky »

djsumdog wrote: post #171
amyjess wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.

> insurrectionists Peaceful protestors. Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists? Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get fede…

People planted pipe bombs in the capitol building. Wow, such peaceful, much protest.

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Post by astura »

sangnoir wrote: post #152
smcl wrote: post #61

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For this specific decision I think we can put it down to incompetence over malice - it'd presumably be easy for whoever was co-ordinating it dismiss all the riot talks as bluster and figure it'd just be yet another protest with a lot of shouting. I imagine we'll hear more about it, but I would be surprised if it was a co-ordinated effort in concert with the rioters (I don't know what to call them). The footage of pol…

If it is reasonable to assume that some individual members of the police force are sympathetic to the Q/Boogaloo cause, who is to say the person responsible for coordinating with the Pentagon wasn't a fellow traveler? Police forces, on the whole aren't exactly politically neutral: during primary season, I recall a republican politician getting a picture taken with a policeman who had a "Q" patch on his uniform. There…

>I recall a republican politician getting a picture taken with a policeman who had a "Q" patch on his uniform.

This picture?

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pence_posing_with_...

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by g8oz »

djsumdog wrote: post #171
amyjess wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.

> insurrectionists Peaceful protestors. Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists? Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get fede…

Some were armed and an IED was found. I recommend avoiding identity protective cognition when analyzing these events.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by rlt »

jeffbee wrote: post #202
doomslice wrote: post #167

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Maybe this will change your mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=20m04s&v=cJOgGsC0G9U

I admire the restraint on display here, but if even one of those guys had been black, the cops would have iced every one of them. Imagine someone grabbing a cop's gas mask at a BLM march and not being dead 2 seconds later.

Are you aware an unarmed white woman was shot and killed by police at the capitol that day?

Yes, on average black folks are treated more unfairly than white folks by police, but exaggerated claims like “the cops would have iced every one of them” help no one.

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