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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Storming? Let’s not get ahead ourselves here. The capitol police literally opened the door and let them inside: https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1347615270504955904... Which explains this hilarious picture of a 70-year old grandma “coup plotter” posing with coffee mug. https://twitter.com/TheRealEWILLZ/status/1346999976899932161...

A Capitol police officer died from injuries during attempts to control the mob.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#202

Storming? Let’s not get ahead ourselves here. The capitol police literally opened the door and let them inside: https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1347615270504955904... Which explains this hilarious picture of a 70-year old grandma “coup plotter” posing with coffee mug. https://twitter.com/TheRealEWILLZ/status/1346999976899932161...

Maybe this will change your mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=20m04s&v=cJOgGsC0G9U

I admire the restraint on display here, but if even one of those guys had been black, the cops would have iced every one of them. Imagine someone grabbing a cop's gas mask at a BLM march and not being dead 2 seconds later.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#203

What's the protocol to secure all devices/network after incident like this week? Should all hardware left behind considered possibly compromised?

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1347244300527013889 : "Resecuring the Capitol's IT infrastructure should probably involve shredding every device, cable and thumb-drive, tearing open every light-socket and power-outlet, and even then, it will be hard to fully trust the building and its systems."

If this is done, does everyone lose all of their unbacked up work or is there some way to recover it safely? There are for sure internal notes, draft bills and changes, etc. on these computers that is not backed up.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#204

Beyond the information security risk around the loss of this specific device, what really worries me is the physical security implications here. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but it seems to me like, in a building like the US Capitol, it should not be anywhere near this easy for unauthorized people to waltz into an office or conference room in the first place. Let alone walk away with items from within that…

I've traveled to countries before whose offices of government are behind very large fences, protected by unfriendly looking men standing behind heavy machine guns in armored vehicles – and the guide books are very clear that you are not to take photos of them. I much prefer the approach taken in the USA, where our offices of government are accessible to the people that the government serves. It's very good that I can…

So just a couple hundreds of people can protest in front of the building, enter elected official offices and steal laptops most likely containing very sensitive data (hopefully encrypted though)?

I agree with you but I think there ought to be a little more protection of that.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#205
post #114

What is a good strategy for most convenience while securing private data on a laptop that could be stolen? Full disk encryption is good for when the machine is powered off. What about for the scenario when it gets swiped during the work day when I'm in the bathroom?

Take it with you to the bathroom or turn it off.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#206
post #82

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Seems like it ought to be possible to have both, to some degree. I don't want the capitol to be a fortress, but they need to prevent stuff like this. I mean... the US spends massive amounts of money on the police and military. I think it should be kind of like a non-Newtonian fluid. Walk in slowly and peacefully and it's ok. Try and punch it, it solidifies quickly.

If the people really want to overthrow the government, some jacked up defenses around capitol buildings won't stop anything imho, it just means the resistance will bring heavier weapons to match.

Occupying buildings is, honestly, pretty silly if your goal is to overthrow the government.

A few years(?) ago, Mitch McConnell's dinner at a restaurant was interrupted by protestors yelling at him. And that was after what happened to Gabby Giffords.

Targets with higher ROI are available to people willing to take, ahem, kinetic actions.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#207

What's the protocol to secure all devices/network after incident like this week? Should all hardware left behind considered possibly compromised?

Once untrusted, never trusted.

Everthing in that building that plugs into the wall should be discarded and with a known good device. That includes network infrastructure and even cabling.

Between this and the recent SUNBURST fiasco, there are going to be some long discussions about security policy.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#208
post #179

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The presentation machines at my workplace (in addition to being desktops in a locked cabinet, because why would they leave the room?) just allow you to remote desktop back to your real workstation or to a VM. They have nothing locally. I think that's a good solution to avoiding over-granting privileges.

I would absolutely hope that it behaves like a dumb terminal but honestly you never know.

Well I guess gov knows.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#209

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They took selfies with the insurrectionists. They were complicit.

> insurrectionists Peaceful protestors. Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists? Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get fede…

Storming the capitol to stop the certification of an election whose result t hey didn't like is the very definition of an attempted coup d'etat.

They had zip ties meant for the purpose of taking hostages: https://twitter.com/Adiscen/status/1347189171362918400

IEDs were found at the DNC and RNC: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/pipe-bomb-rnc... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-photo-sus...

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

#210
post #153

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If it’s a shared machine for projecting notes, chances are it has nothing stored locally.

These folks don't trust one another with information, so it seems unlikely that they'd pass around a laptop loaded with one anothers presentations.

These folks are also among the most tech-unsavvy people on Earth...
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