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it's amazing how the american right has managed to get sympathy from HNers thanks to their contrarianism. i guess it goes to show - being STEM-competent doesn't mean you have intelligence.
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You can't be fair when you only blame Fox for fact-free content when the same fact-free content(just inverted) is peddled by all the other mass media outlets. They just cater to a different bubble.
It's very fair. Fox - and its equivalents - are run in a knowing and cynical way. "No reasonable viewer would think Tucker Carlson is news." The media barons believe their consumers are idiots, and treat them accordingly. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/fox-news-lawyer-suggest... You're going to have a hard time finding an equivalent statement from the progressive media. This is about clash of fundamentally inco…
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Like Trump is just a regular president of a country. It's not surprising at all given his behavior. Being president doesn't excuse it.
What policies he pushed you are not happy with? Less taxes, no new wars, and leaving each state making their own decisions for covid-19 seems pretty center right to me.
I think the election was stolen, but stolen by Trump alone and basically handed over to Biden.
If anything, Trump stole the election from his supporters.
They should be pissed he couldn't show restraint and just shut his mouth to take the victory so he could continue with their favored agenda.
Instead, he actively sabotaged himself. His ego prevented him from seeing that unfold. And nobody could reign him in at any point. That's crazy.
Doesn't matter how many good things you get done if you show everyone you are incapable of humility, incapable of listening to advisors and data and fabricating things on the regular.
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You can't be fair when you only blame Fox for fact-free content when the same fact-free content(just inverted) is peddled by all the other mass media outlets. They just cater to a different bubble.
> all the other mass media outlets All? C'mon. You can make the argument that MSNBC is a mirror of Fox News in terms of coddling its viewers, but if you're calling NPR or the New York Times "fact-free," you're only betraying your own ignorance of journalism standards. Investigating facts and reporting them clearly is a solved problem. There are people who go to universities to study how to do this well, then go to wo…
it's amazing how the american right has managed to get sympathy from HNers thanks to their contrarianism. i guess it goes to show - being STEM-competent doesn't mean you have intelligence.
Consider the possibility that people have values very different from your own, perhaps ones that seem utterly foreign and disgusting to you (the feeling is certainly mutual) and that this is completely orthogonal to intelligence.
The statements by Facebook and others pushing moral justifications around Facebook's censorship fail to entertain the possibility that even morality is subjective and relative. Facebook makes its decisions based on its own goals and preferences and morals. Facebook has established itself unfairly as a moral arbiter on a platform that is so widely used that is treated like a public utility. The people who currently ag…
It's fine that morality is subjective. Objectivity isn't a requirement for ethical action -- I don't need to write a formal proof to ban a white ethnostate nationalist from my web forum.
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No matter what they do, half the population will scream. Imagine if they strongly censor things from the start, that undoubtedly won't fly well with the HN crowd either. Just look at the HN discussion thread when Youtube decided to remove election fraud videos.
Yeah, it wouldn't fly well because FB shouldn't play a judge. I don't understand why we don't have a due process for stuff like this. Trump haters keep justifying that FB is private they can ban whoever they want. Then, when a theme park bans a gay couple, they are screaming violently. I understand how it would be hard for normal people to push something through legal routes. But even Warren doesn't want to use a leg…
1. One of these things is not like the other.
2. “Screaming violently”?
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Yeah, it wouldn't fly well because FB shouldn't play a judge. I don't understand why we don't have a due process for stuff like this. Trump haters keep justifying that FB is private they can ban whoever they want. Then, when a theme park bans a gay couple, they are screaming violently. I understand how it would be hard for normal people to push something through legal routes. But even Warren doesn't want to use a leg…
People have been wanting Trump and other alt-rights banned for years _because_ of things they _did_ not who they are. Thats a major difference. And those users have repeatedly crossed the TOS of the services they are using but the pages stay up because it generates engagement. Twitter even admits that Trump was too big to ban because he generates far too much money for them and other social networks. Thats the crux o…
Just to be clear: I'm on the side of, if we are gonna ban someone, let's use a proper legal route to do it.
Not "an exec thinks it's wrong. Let's ban them"
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Yeah, it wouldn't fly well because FB shouldn't play a judge. I don't understand why we don't have a due process for stuff like this. Trump haters keep justifying that FB is private they can ban whoever they want. Then, when a theme park bans a gay couple, they are screaming violently. I understand how it would be hard for normal people to push something through legal routes. But even Warren doesn't want to use a leg…
> Trump haters keep justifying that FB is private they can ban whoever they want. Then, when a theme park bans a gay couple, they are screaming violently. 1. One of these things is not like the other. 2. “Screaming violently”?