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Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

Do you feel most beginners would agree with you?

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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There are plenty of mid-level editors out there. Sounds like Notepad++ and Sublime Text are up you alley. Also, it depends what you mean by bloated, but VS Code can be stripped down to work just like the two I listed above. Language servers aren't required by any means. If you're looking for sub 50MB ram usage, then stick to the two above and search for "Sublime Text alternative" and I'm sure you'll find more equival…

I've used Notepad++ and Sublime Text and like them a lot, but I could really use something that can run on a Raspberry Pi too. I guess I should have included that. Being able to use a single text editor across platforms would be terrific. I prefer Atom.io over VSCode for simplicity. It's much closer to working the way I want out-of-the-box. There's so much junk I have to disable in VSCode to get it where I like.

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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I recommend this to my students frequently. I teach an intro to programming class to college students who have no experience. Inevitably, some try to use PyCharm and they just get lost in it! I tell them it's like learning to drive in an 18 wheeler with a manual transmission. Thonny is very much the Toyota Corolla of IDEs and it's perfect for beginners.

The debugger and variable pane really help beginners figure out what's going as their program runs.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

#35

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

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Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

#36

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

gEdit? Kate? jEdit? One of those might fit your needs.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

#37
I would love to see someone change the tiny debugger icons for actions like "pause" and "next step" to giant, obvious, text only buttons with a clear and colorful call to action. They're the most important buttons on the IDE for beginners and they're the least obvious. Also, make breakpoints discoverable if you don't know that they're possible.
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