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Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like VSCode and Atom) or painfully low-featured ones like notepad or nano.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by jerf » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

You seem to be spec'ing either vim or emacs, there.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by jjice » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

There are plenty of mid-level editors out there. Sounds like Notepad++ and Sublime Text are up you alley.

Also, it depends what you mean by bloated, but VS Code can be stripped down to work just like the two I listed above. Language servers aren't required by any means. If you're looking for sub 50MB ram usage, then stick to the two above and search for "Sublime Text alternative" and I'm sure you'll find more equivalents than you ever wanted.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by eitland » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:04 PM UTC

muad_kyrlach wrote: post #8

eitland wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: the core of Jetbrains IntelliJ is a very capable real, extensible open source IDE that they've released themselves. I suspect (but I'm not sure) that the rest of their desktop products are built on top of that.

Sounds a lot like eclipse of yore...

Also true.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by bird_monster » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

Seems like you want vim or emacs?

Why is more tools a problem?

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

and old book about unix describes it as such.

each individual program is its own module, fs to link them (files or pipe)