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Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by comprev » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

Thonny is included by default in the Raspberry Pi OS

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by rcoder » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:20 PM UTC

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here yet: Thonny explicitly supports Micropython for embedded systems development: https://github.com/thonny/thonny/wiki/MicroPython

IME Thonny is a great sketchpad for Micropython ideas, and makes work on that platform nearly as easy as locally-run Python code.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by bertobully » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:25 PM UTC

I've used this in the past. Excellent learning environment.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by codetrotter » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 8:33 PM UTC

thom wrote: post #9

I've used this in the past with my son to teach him simple stuff. Would be nice if it somehow had integrated docs though, at which point it would be roughly up to speed with QuickBasic in the 80s.

I see that Thonny has the Python shell built into it.

You can use the help function to see some information about things.

For example:

    help(list)

Of course all of the help that you get that way is only useful if you already know the concepts you need and the names of things. It’s not like a tutorial or a guide or anything. But still, if you find yourself forgetting some detail about something it can be a way of finding the information you need.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by protonfish » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:18 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #16

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

You seem to be spec'ing either vim or emacs, there.

Sorry, I guess I didn't know I had to include "and without a completely unnecessary non-standard interface that requires a massive learning curve to get started." as a feature.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by protonfish » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:22 PM UTC

jjice wrote: post #17

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

There are plenty of mid-level editors out there. Sounds like Notepad++ and Sublime Text are up you alley. Also, it depends what you mean by bloated, but VS Code can be stripped down to work just like the two I listed above. Language servers aren't required by any means. If you're looking for sub 50MB ram usage, then stick to the two above and search for "Sublime Text alternative" and I'm sure you'll find more equival…

I've used Notepad++ and Sublime Text and like them a lot, but I could really use something that can run on a Raspberry Pi too. I guess I should have included that. Being able to use a single text editor across platforms would be terrific.

I prefer Atom.io over VSCode for simplicity. It's much closer to working the way I want out-of-the-box. There's so much junk I have to disable in VSCode to get it where I like.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:22 PM UTC

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Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

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Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by VectorLock » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:44 PM UTC

rcoder wrote: post #22

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here yet: Thonny explicitly supports Micropython for embedded systems development: https://github.com/thonny/thonny/wiki/MicroPython IME Thonny is a great sketchpad for Micropython ideas, and makes work on that platform nearly as easy as locally-run Python code.

Solid push into Arduino IDE territory as well.

Re: Thonny: A hassle-free Python micro-IDE

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Post by valec » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

protonfish wrote: post #15

Why is everything an IDE? I don't want an integrated development environment - I want a modular one. And as one of those modules, I would love a simple, lightweight code editor. UTF-8 only, auto-indent, a file list column, a good find-in-page feature, and file type dependent syntax highlighting and multi-line comment key. That's all I need. It seems I am always stuck between bloated IDEs (or bloated text editors like…

I would recommend micro editor then (https://micro-editor.github.io/). It's like a souped-up and much nicer to use nano. It supports syntax-highlighting out of the box, auto-indents, etc. I think you might like it :)