Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by cblconfederate » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:09 PM UTC

estebarb wrote: post #200

I find interesting that at least in spanish facebook does NOTHING to prevent fake news, calls to assassinate local leaders, fake elections fraud and other content to spread. Even those comments are always promoted as "the most relevant". FB is an amplifier of all this mess and is ruining democracies everywhere.

i believe though that people (that matter) don't take facebook seriously , if anything it's considered low quality medium , and they expect it to be full of garbage. (and doesn't disappoint)

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by djsumdog » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:09 PM UTC

emptyparadise wrote: post #209

A single social network shouldn't wield this much power - and I mean not the act of suspending a political figure but the fact that doing that has such a big impact. I'm not saying Trump should be unblocked from Facebook here. It's the fact that him getting blocked to begin with is a big enough deal to at this point probably have hundreds of news articles written about it that deeply bothers me. We handed the keys to…

Every government official should have hired staff to setup official Government ActiviyPub instances. They don't because they don't see past the absolute control of big tech.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by bazooka_penguin » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:10 PM UTC

fckthisguy wrote: post #654

estebarb wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spanish is the second language with more native speakers in the world (and FB is banned in China). It is the main language in Latin America, Spain, Guinea Ecuatorial and other places.

Maybe I misunderstood you message, but I was quite surprised to see Spanish as the second most spoken language in the world. I just looked it up and the rankings are a little less black and white than I expected too. A lot of the numbers seems to be from older rankings and the explosive growth of some languages in recent years makes them vary wildly. All in all, it seems Chinese is first, with Spanish coming in just…

Spanish isn't the second most spoken language overall. It's the second most common native(a person's first) language. English is taught and used by huge swathes of Asia and is almost as common as Chinese. I can't even remember the last time I met an asian immigrant who didn't speak english.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by w0de » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:11 PM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #798

w0de wrote: post #773

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This is delusional. I recommend you set a reminder to re-evaluate this statement in 5 years.

I recommend you address the arguments and concerns without insulting the person making it and calling them delusional. That's not only against HN policies, it kinda emphases OPs point.

Ok - his 'argument' reflects, I believe, a delusion about the state of American politics. Specifically, he appears to believe that Joe Biden winning the previous election is a harbinger for a leftist totalitarian state in America. This is patently ridiculous - he doesn't deploy rhetoric of the radical left, his policies and record are far to the right of democratic leftist parties in Europe and elsewhere, etc. On its face it is a ridiculous thing to assert.

I don't believe, however, that I can convince the poster of their delusion. Therefore I wanted to present the best evidence for it: reality, as I expect it to be, in five years.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:11 PM UTC

esoterica wrote: post #689

throwawaybchr wrote: post #594

This was going to happen regardless of yesterday's events. Anyone working in close proximity to the activist groups on campus knows this already. Yesterday has provided perfect cover for folks to do what they want to by using their positions in these companies for political reasons. Unfortunately many folks think the ends justify the means. Patriot act, WMD in Iraq, FISA courts, now arbitrary banning of politicians b…

It's funny how so many conservatives do not seem to grasp the concept of "private property" ostensibly the being the party of private property rights. They only care about property rights when it comes to complaining about the government taking their tax money. On the flip side, when other entities choose to exert their private property rights in a manner unfavorable to them (e.g. by banning certain users from their…

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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by sagichmal » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:12 PM UTC

throwaways885 wrote: post #629

oivey wrote: post #601

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That’s a pretty false equivalence. To cite the most recently example, Fox repeatedly propagating Trump’s lies about the election has no analog on the left.

What about Trump/Russia collusion?

> What about Trump/Russia collusion?

You mean the thing that several people were tried and found guilty of?

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by finder83 » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:12 PM UTC

b-etran wrote: post #357

finder83 wrote: post #324

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Do you have examples of the direct calls to violence and insurrection? Supposedly there were three tweets that Twitter required trump to delete, but I don't see the actual text of them anywhere.

Here's the transcript of the deleted video statemenet: "I know your pain. Your hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never…

Thanks, I was able to actually find that, but that doesn't sound like calls to violence or insurrection to me. Quite the opposite.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by djsumdog » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:12 PM UTC

pfdietz wrote: post #729

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #402

The transcript of the video: ”I know your pain. I know you’re hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like…

> We had an election that was stolen from us. That's a lie, regardless of what you want it to be.

That's literally what's been disputed. Your opinion doesn't make it fact. The courts have literally said they will not hear any testimony at all, both the 7th circuit who decided they had standing but the case had no merit, and the Supreme Court which decided Texas had no standing in the only venue available for States to resolve conflicts with other States (a state cannot sue in another state court).

The Supreme Court could have taken the case and simply ruled. America is upset because no one is listening. Every means of relief is full of cowards.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by djsumdog » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

karl11 wrote: post #216

The censorship you don't like always starts out as the censorship you like. Whatever you think about Trump, it is not a good thing that 3 companies (Twitter, Facebook, Google) have the ability to effectively silence the democratically elected US President.

It's the "first they came for the.." poem.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by djsumdog » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

throwaway4good wrote: post #419

America censors its own president. Absurd. So what platform is Donald Trump go to? I bet his presence is worth even more dollars than Joe Rogan ...

I see a distinct MAGA party arising. The republicans shot themselves in the foot. Every single republican who turned their back on Trump should not get reelected.