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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#182
It doesn't matter who is in power. The entire system is corrupt. Trump supporters, and many progressives have the same issue. The wealth gap.

We have a system where CEO's are rewarded with stock, not a salary. That stock is then taxed at capital gains rates. If we raise taxes, they can just give the CEO more stock.

Democrats want to raise taxes, which doesn't do anything. Why? Because they can just give more stock. Republicans believe the problem doesn't exist.

The Zuckerbergs are the problem.

Democrats know they raise taxes, which makes the dumb happy, they can just give themselves more options.

Such a racket.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#183

Facebook is not a platform to have a voice. It’s a platform that harvests thoughts and publicizes the ones FB most agrees with while censoring those it does not. This is a slippery slope and, quite frankly, it’s the people that lose.

When you're more or less encouraging a coup, the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy couldn't be more applicable.

"fire in a crowded theater" is nothing more than remnants of an old opinion quoted out-of-context and neither precedent nor basis for anything of the First Amendment.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#184
Zuck continues to prove what a scumbag he is. Trump has been fear mongering and spreading lies and disinformation for years.

Zuck crashed the car and killed a few people, but now acts like he is doing the right thing by selling it for scrap metal.

He has been scumbag from day one.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People branding his flags and hats stormed the Capitol walls and Senate floor, as he delayed an eventual reiteration that the elections were rigged, they should be furious, but now they should go home and that he loved them very much and were very special people. There were nooses propped up, people died, and elected officials were bunkered. His close sources also reported that he watched on TV with manic joy at what…

That's not relevant to the question he asked. > What exactly Trump said to spark this?

No? I did respond with the President’s response, and his response is called fomenting - the reason for the ban in question.

> an eventual reiteration that the elections were rigged, they should be furious, but now they should go home and that he loved them very much and were very special people

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#186

> involving use of our platform to incite violent insurrection against a democratically elected government. From my understanding the video that got banned asked everyone to go home peacefully but then continued to claim election fraud?

You are correct the video all the platforms are using to justify the bans explicitly asked people to go home. Previously he had urged them to be peaceful which they mostly were as evidenced by the fact that no capitol staff or police were in any way injured during the incident. edit: Leaving my comment intact as there are people who have replied. VBProgrammer pointed out that a portion of my statement is not true. Th…

People are reacting negatively to this comment (and rightly so) because your representation of what was said in the video does not match the tone, or underlying message delivered by said video.

The video was the equivalent of watching a kid, who has been rightly verbally disciplined by a parent, and who has been told they must apologize to their sibling/friend/whatever, so that kid says "Ok ok I'm SORRY", but immediately starts to rationalize/explain away why they were still right.

> explicitly asked people to go home

The words were said, but the sentiment and subsequent message told the viewer the opposite. "Go home" ... "but you're loved/special and I understand you, wink wink". The equivalent of "SORRY" ... "(but I'm really not sorry...)".

Others have already reacted to the comment about "peaceful" behavior and injuries, and those comments reflect my thoughts, so I won't expand on them here.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See for yourself: https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/trump-releases-statement-telli... Someone described this video as taking a log off the fire while simultaneously pouring gasoline which I think is a fair characterization.

So basically you are saying: - Asking for peace isn’t enough - And. He really needs to stop believing his claim of fraud? Wild. Am I crazy or is everyone else right now?

No you're not crazy just disingenuous.

Meaning is transmitted not just by the words you use. For example by being sarcastic you can make the words mean the opposite of what their plain meaning is.

Trump made clear how he felt, and his words did not reflect that.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#188
No fan of Trump and I try to be militantly centrist, but how is Trump's baseless rhetoric about election fraud any different than almost every Democrat politician's endless claims that Trump was [eye roll] a "Russian agent"?? Both claims are absurd, but how exactly is one "incitement" while the other is just normal course mainstream news?? Facebook of course provides no specific explanation about their decision. But how would calling the president LITERALLY a Russian spy not qualify as incitement under the same basic logic? I'm just getting tired of all the brazen double standards. It's entirely possible to hate Trump and (a) not go completely overboard about what he does and (b) not pretend the left doesn't also have some disturbing pathologies.

I'm sure this will get about a thousand downvotes...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#190

Holy hell those comments though. Talk about a swamp.

"I think the only people who should be able to post their comments are the ones whose opinions I agree with!"

Funny how "I should be able to say what I please" and "I should be able to say what I please AND have no-one challenge me or criticise me" are so conflated. Don't dish it if you can't take it.
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