No option for RCS? It's a true successor to SMS and you can switch providers without losing anyone in your contacts. Although I am not really sure how easy it will be to switch clients and use something 3rd party
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#212Question about WhatsApp and contact access: I’ve turned off contact access. I can’t see the names behind the numbers. Will fb still see the numbers of the new contacts I message?
If you enabled it previously, they have all your contacts. If you turned it off I assume they wont be able to see updates or new contacts you add.
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#213The problem is not finding a nice alternative. The problem is that everybody's contacts are on Whatsapp. How do you make THEM switch?
The folks here are quite persuasive. Once we start switching rest will follow. Let the exodus begin!
I was thinking the same. "Wow, just switch and people will switch too", LOL.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
For people that are not aware: There's a Telegram FOSS [1] fork which contains all kinds of fixes; and additionally is Google Services and tracking free, which means it will run on AOSP and LineageOS without any burden of push services. You can verify this yourself with AppWarden [2]. [1] https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS [2] https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AppWarden
being FOSS just in the client side, IMO changes little in comparsion with WhatsApp.
At least you know what your device is doing. But walled garden is definitely bad.
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#215Where is the "Don't switch" option? Because as much as I hate that Facebook bought them, they're part of what I would call "critical social infrastructure." Asking to leave WhatsApp is like cancelling your contract with your ISP and going offline just because you don't like the company.
That’s not a good comparison. There are many alternatives to WhatsApp and it’s not a „critical“ infrastructure. In contrast, you sometimes can’t choose your ISP and internet is much more critical.
That might depend on where you live. Around here, WhatsApp definitely is "critical", in the sense that schools, sports clubs, business as well as social life seem to be built around it nowadays. :-(
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#216Where is the "Don't switch" option? Because as much as I hate that Facebook bought them, they're part of what I would call "critical social infrastructure." Asking to leave WhatsApp is like cancelling your contract with your ISP and going offline just because you don't like the company.
Not a good comparison and quite exaggerated...
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#217signal
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regardless of your opinion of this comment, it's still worthwhile to have the option of "staying with WhatsApp" in the poll.
The question is "To which app are you going to switch?", not "What are you using?" It may take a long time and huge effort to switch, but people are starting to do it.
> The question is "To which app are you going to switch?"
And a reasonable answer is "your assumption is wrong, I don't plan to switch at all". I have no doubt that some people will switch, what I'd like to know if that movement is niche or mainstream.
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#219Where is the "Don't switch" option? Because as much as I hate that Facebook bought them, they're part of what I would call "critical social infrastructure." Asking to leave WhatsApp is like cancelling your contract with your ISP and going offline just because you don't like the company.
How is it possible for this answer to be first... Really HN? WhatsApp is critical infrastructure?? Excluding company ownership, what is the crucial difference between all IM listed? There's LITTLE DIFFERENCE, they all serve the same purpose, feature parity is pretty much there. When you add company ownership to the mix, WhatsApp is owned by fucking Facebook. Let that sear in your mind.
>Excluding company ownership, what is the crucial difference between all IM listed?
The crucial difference is that in my life everyone is on WhatsApp, and no one is on any of the other IMs. That is the difference.
And I don't use the word everyone here lightly, I mean it (99,9%) literally. My family, my parents, my friends, my colleagues, my 91 year old grandmother, my potential clients, my actual clients, the support line for the webshop I order from, the support line for my supermarket, etc... Everyone.
I can't speak for other countries, but in the Netherlands WhatsApp is undeniably a part of your social infrastructure.
It doesn't matter if any of those other IMs have feature parity, better security or stricter privacy. There's just no one to message.
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#220Telegram is a great IM experience . The client is good, feature set is good, the stickers are amusing (if you're into that kind of thing), the feature set is complete and everything is polished. Telegram is, I think, going to be one of the easier sells if you're trying to convince non-technical users to switch from WhatsApp or FB Messenger. The privacy, security, and governance story is not great though. If you care…
if with Telegram "the privacy, security, and governance story is not great though", why would you migrate from WhatsApp to Telegram in first place? I personally have all 3 (Signal, WhatsApp and Telegram) and use all three with different groups and scenarios. For example: - With my mom and grandmom: WhatsApp - Group of friends from jiu-jitsu: WhatsApp - Work Colleagues and friends working with Network Security: Signal…
It's about time someone made a unified messenger client that combines all these conversations and hides the detail of which service you are using to talk to friends.