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Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by toxicFork »

tsomctl wrote: post #8

Somewhat related, the Youtube channel Pakistani truck ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC64FbxoHfUWd5hykYk5_BvQ/vid... ). Here's a good example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E3TnJX61Oo It's absolutely amazing how good of work they do using ridiculously crude tools. Extremely skilled people. I strongly recommend you don't watch if you're a manager or OSHA inspector, though.

> You know that guy standing in the back by the lathe is the apprentice when he's eating sparks from the grinder.

Where/how can I donate some protection gear to them?

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by rob74 »

For some it's art, for others it's an accident hazard. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against painting the trucks, but these wooden "crowns" would lead to the truck being declared not roadworthy in any Western country. At best, they only increase the truck's weight and fuel consumption, at worst they can fall off and make accidents worse...

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

oa335 wrote: post #34
umeshunni wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why?

Because upper class Pakistanis have a “colonized” mindset and tend to believe that true quality culture must be imported. Additionally, egalitarianism is not a value as it is in the USA, so working class art is generally looked down on.

I dunno, the USA has a massive class divide - think of the stigmas associated with subcultures (e.g. "hillbillies", "white trash"), race, where people live (suburbs or "the projects"), and of course relative financial status (the 1%, the 0.1% who might as well be living in an entirely different country compared to the working poor).

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ggm wrote: post #2

The linkage between flamboyance and business is really cool! Truck hire must be very direct for this to work.

I am very much not at all familiar with Pakistan or any area outside of "the west", but I think a lot of business is done a lot more ad hoc and informal elsewhere compared to my cultural background. Things like haggling about a price or tipping are mostly foreign concepts to me, whereas they're both normal elsewhere in the world.

On the other hand, we have bitterballen, snert and gezelligheid.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by nayaketo »

amingilani wrote: post #63
barry-cotter wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Urdu is the native language of a very small number of Pakistanis, mostly the 3% of the population that descend from families that moved from India at independence, the Mojahirs. Punjabi and Sindhi are mother tongue to far more people.

Pakistani here. While that is true, everyone speaks Urdu. If you have a regional language you can grow up speaking both languages fluently, or just one—depending on which you're more exposed to—and even English if you were educated in it. For example, my dad's regional language was Seraiki, and my mom's Punjabi, and they speak both and Urdu fluently. I grew up in an area where the regional language was Punjabi. But,…

I'm from Nepal and Urdu and Hindi sound similar to me. I can understand most Pakistanis pretty well, even though I only know Hindi.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by barry-cotter »

amingilani wrote: post #63
barry-cotter wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Urdu is the native language of a very small number of Pakistanis, mostly the 3% of the population that descend from families that moved from India at independence, the Mojahirs. Punjabi and Sindhi are mother tongue to far more people.

Pakistani here. While that is true, everyone speaks Urdu. If you have a regional language you can grow up speaking both languages fluently, or just one—depending on which you're more exposed to—and even English if you were educated in it. For example, my dad's regional language was Seraiki, and my mom's Punjabi, and they speak both and Urdu fluently. I grew up in an area where the regional language was Punjabi. But,…

Yeah, apart from Brahui all the languages of Pakistan are Indo-Aryan or Baluch, which is closer to Persian (Farsi). Urdu is part of the Hindustani dialect continuum that stretches across the North of the Indian subcontinent. Speaking three of these languages is like speaking Spanish, Italian and Portugese. Standards are different, vocabulary will differ quite a lot. The intelligibility you speak of is in part the product of 70 years of tv, radio and education though. Smoothing out of dialectal differences. Hindi is the same in North India. Not surprising since Urdu and Hindi are pretty much the same language bar the writing system and scientific/technical/legal/formal vocabulary.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by barry-cotter »

sdiq wrote: post #62
barry-cotter wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Urdu is the native language of a very small number of Pakistanis, mostly the 3% of the population that descend from families that moved from India at independence, the Mojahirs. Punjabi and Sindhi are mother tongue to far more people.

Mohajir, you seem to have the 'h' and 'j' interchanged.

I will remember.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by tusharpandey13 »

rob74 wrote: post #72

For some it's art, for others it's an accident hazard. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against painting the trucks, but these wooden "crowns" would lead to the truck being declared not roadworthy in any Western country. At best, they only increase the truck's weight and fuel consumption, at worst they can fall off and make accidents worse...

The simple fact that these trucks and their owners don't give a damn about western countries is enough to counter any arguments. They're made the way they are to carry as much load as possible, and the decorations hold a sentimental value to the owners. Many of these owners own a maximum of 2 to 3 trucks and their livelihood depends on it. Considering that the profession runs in the family, it's not difficult to attach sentimental value to these vehicles.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by Strahdivarius »

As a local, I got quite sick of those garish monstrosities since childhood. Maybe it's the warm climate that just makes all the clashing colors uncomfortable and annoying to look at, everywhere and every day.

I appreciate the more tasteful decor of buses etc in the West or countries like the UAE. My favorite though is the cute-ification of public vehicles in Japan which is on a whole another level :)

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