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Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by justicezyx »

plumeria wrote: post #101
justicezyx wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's well-known that China is very serious about IPs. At least to people actually paying attention to Chinese domestic policies. A lot of Chinese firms knowingly violates IP laws in the past, because they understand there is not enough resources to enforce them. Additionally, Chinese government has been very open about the plan to enforce IP laws gradually to the same standard as the global market. A good balance has…

> It's well-known that China is very serious about IPs. > Chinese government has been very open about the plan to enforce IP laws gradually to the same standard as the global market. IMHO, these two statements contradict themselves.

IP is a means of commercializing intellectual achievements. It's not noble in that it protects people actually doing the work, most patent owners get them from coauthors of the patent, and has very low degree of moral assessment value. Indeed, most innovative corps today are the pioneers of only use patent as defensive measure (Google Tesla).

Being serious about IP is to respect a rule of game, and not actually enforce it is out of necessity (are you expecting a sweat shop to actually pay loyalty and produces actual profit?) and actual recognition that building up the mechanisms of innovation will take time.

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by baja_blast »

absolutelyrad wrote: post #6
arthropodSeven wrote: post #3

Gonna be great when Congress gets word of this

What can congress do? They're already blacklisted. The only thing left is to shoot your own foot. Maybe avoid that? I've seen nothing logical that came out of Trumps silly blacklisting except cashing out on the reputation the US had for pennies on the dollar. China is destined to be Europe and the US combined in term of tech. Time will tell if their culture causes problem for them. Smart high intelligence people + st…

> Every top math Olympiad participant representing the US is of Chinese ethnicity/descent, this should be noted.

But conversely, if you look at winners of the Fields Medal, Abel Prize, Wolf Prize, Chern Medal etc. There is surprisingly few Chinese recipients despite outnumbering everyone else in total population.

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by contingencies »

m463 wrote: post #105
corbet wrote: post #102

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I would love to find better metrics than changesets and lines of codes — I agree that both are awful ways of measuring actual software-development work. I have yet to find something better, though; suggestions welcome.

I wonder if folks should even look for it, because it will become an employment metric. sorry you spent too much time on "learning", we need more "corbet-curve-units" from you.

Goodhart's Law (Popular formulation): When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.

... via https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by cosmodisk »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #93
cosmodisk wrote: post #91

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Yes, that's exactly what I mean. The entire country sat quietly whilst the western companies poured billions upon billions into it. Fast forward 30-40 years and everyone is super surprised that once humble and kowtowing country showing a middle finger to the rest of the world and nobody can do anything about it. Huawei has been operating like this since its inception.

You can blame that on the colonialist mentality that prevailed in the MBAs of the rich western nations where they saw China as this obedient servant that will just build our stuff and always do what we tell them to do since we have the money and the kow-how and they'll never wise up and become a threat. I worked in the NL hardware business over a decade back and that was the exact mentality management there had in re…

People never learn from history. It's same when the Germans invited gastarbeiters to build the country, expecting them to just pack up and leave afterwards. As one of them later said: I spent 15 years building this country, it's my home,why would I leave?

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by HeadlessChild »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #4

Not surprising after I saw how many R&D offices Huawei has in Europe. They basically placed their offices right across their competitors like Ericsson, Nokia, Imagination, etc. to the point that in every European Tech hub you will find a Huawei office.

Axis Communications who are the leaders in the network camera industry has their HQ in the small Swedish city, Lund.

Huawei decided to place a new R&D team which focuses on network cameras in the same building were the Axis HQ are located, in Lund.

EDIT: Source (in Swedish): https://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.712002/huawei-kamerav...

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by disown »

b0rsuk wrote: post #14
harikb wrote: post #9

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If a state actor really wants to do it and someone could get it past reviews, I am sure they could bribe any contributor from any country (including US). Why single out China? We never raised concerns with Russian contributors.

Maybe not single out China, but many people think China is particularly untrustworthy: they insist Chinese law is used outside China, and lecture people how they should refer to China in public; they operate concentration camps; the Chinese language has no word for *mutuality*, China benefits from free speech and access to institutions in the West but doesn't allow the same in China for journalists or businessmen; Ch…

Everything you wrote is pathetically false. Why not be honest because shitty propaganda harms your cause more than it helps.

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by philliphaydon »

rat9988 wrote: post #45
philliphaydon wrote: post #33

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So you choose the US?

I understood china.

china has extradition laws just like the US. But the major difference (other than the list of countries they have treaties with) is if you insult the US government, nothing would happen, if you insulted the ccp, they would make up some false accusations to extradite you and throw you in jail, like whats happening already with Hong Kong.

So you're definitely safer with the US than you are with china.

Re: Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10

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Post by mrtweetyhack »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #4

Not surprising after I saw how many R&D offices Huawei has in Europe. They basically placed their offices right across their competitors like Ericsson, Nokia, Imagination, etc. to the point that in every European Tech hub you will find a Huawei office.

Why do you think they place the so close? Makes IP theft convenient

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Post by b0rsuk »

zm262 wrote: post #48
b0rsuk wrote: post #39

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Ever heard that Taiwan is doing a stellar job holding off coronavirus? No, because China presses WHO into not mentioning Taiwan. We could learn a lot from Taiwan. China doesn't just boycott Taiwan, it makes others act as if the country doesn't exist. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan

Taiwan is not a country in China's eyes. Technically Taiwan is really not a country but works like one since 1949. If you follow Winnie the Poh closely enough, he has claimed "Taiwan problem will not be passed onto next generation". My personal estimate is that Taiwan will be taken by force within 20 years.

If Taiwan is not a country but a Chinese province, why is China ashamed of it? A province famous for electronic industry and very successful against global pandemic.
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