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Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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I often find it hard to believe that a single person can make much of a difference in such intricate problem domains as chip design but in his case the evidence is overwhelming. Also goes to show what a shit show Intel has become since even he was not able to right that ship. I think in the CPU space it will be all ARM and RISC ten years from now and since Intel never really managed to become a dominant player in any…

Novel development in a complex problem space isn't something one can just throw manpower at and expect progress. I'm sure that a certain amount of his fame is due to being a famous architect, as name recognition always compounds. There's no way he's more influential than the rest of the industry combined (shoulders of giants and whatnot), but I would be hard pressed to find press recognition of other hardware engineers. Still, he is undoubtedly exceptional.

For example, one could round up as many scientists as they could find in 1900, but there is no number that would guarantee the progress made in theoretical physics by someone like Einstein alone.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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A lot of people in this thread are asking questions about Jim Keller single-handed contributions.

Could it be possible he's "famous for being famous"?

E.g. Some might say Jeff Dean (Google) fits this mode a bit, whereas Sanjay Ghemawat (Google) has contributed arguably just as much if not more - but is mentioned radically less than Jeff.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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post #40

I often find it hard to believe that a single person can make much of a difference in such intricate problem domains as chip design but in his case the evidence is overwhelming. Also goes to show what a shit show Intel has become since even he was not able to right that ship. I think in the CPU space it will be all ARM and RISC ten years from now and since Intel never really managed to become a dominant player in any…

Keller was involved with the GPU initiative at Intel, I believe. He certainly wasn't there to fix the process node deadlock.

No, but being at an org that is losing because of the process node deadlock and turning in on itself is not fun.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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I often find it hard to believe that a single person can make much of a difference in such intricate problem domains as chip design but in his case the evidence is overwhelming. Also goes to show what a shit show Intel has become since even he was not able to right that ship. I think in the CPU space it will be all ARM and RISC ten years from now and since Intel never really managed to become a dominant player in any…

I learned an important lesson at my first job out of school: high-quality tech people are more common than the person who can effectively lead them. It was a tough lesson for me because I had spent my entire academic career striving to become a top-notch engineer. Don't confuse a leader with a manager. They might be the same, they might not.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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post #46

It's a bit corny that Reddit and HN go over the top about this guy like he's the centre of the universe, just because he's the only player they know the name of and could point out in a photo.

Folks like to think of themselves as enlightened or even ahead of the curve, but they succumb to personality cult like in Pharaoh's times.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of it may also be the situation the company is in, and it' mindset, when Keller is hired. There's no arguing that Keller is a smart guy, but he doesn't design an entire CPU architecture himself. If you're desperate and say "Okay, we are hiring the smartest guy we can find to build our new CPU, and give everything he needs to make it happen", then perhaps you get the AMD64, Zen or the A4 and A5. If you try to jus…

One of the tendencies of shrinking companies is exacerbated executive infighting. If the company is growing, there are new X-of-Y positions to move up to. If the company is stable or shrinking, people start watching out for their own careers with knives out. AMD possibly avoided this because of size & realization of what needed to be done. Intel's too big & old: I would be very surprised if they weren't much more int…

This is an absolutely on-point observation about company dynamics that a large number of people in the tech industry have never had to experience. It's why growth is so critical.

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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post #27

Anandtech story has some more details about the companies current and past chip designs: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16354/jim-keller-becomes-cto-...

Don't know why Reuters was posted over this.

I think it's a timing thing. There was an earlier post with the Anandtech article late yesterday, but because so much of HN is in NA timezones it was likely smothered by the morning.

Love the TechTechPotato breakdown of this BTW :)

Re: Jim Keller moves to AI chip startup

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> The chips also operate on the assumption that future software will involve programmers giving high-level directions while artificially intelligent computers write much of the nitty gritty code required to implement those human ideas. I can't wait to stop writing machine code.

About 6 months ago my job required that I finally get my hands dirty writing x86 assembly. It's my first real foray into assembly coding.

There are a few aspects of it that I'm really enjoying:

- I can now actually understand the disassembled code that I see during debugging. This includes recognizing some of the assembly patterns that appear because of ABI requirements and/or common programming idioms.

- I'm becoming comfortable with a programming idiom that I've never really used in the past: registers, flags, various kinds of memory addressing.

- It helps my understanding of compilers' lower levels / backends, and the related problems: register allocation, instruction selection, etc.

- It provides a clear path for my first attempt at writing JIT code (using Xbyak[0]).

So as Richard Feynman might have said, it's great fun!

[0] https://github.com/herumi/xbyak

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