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Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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It sounds like you have some expierence. Would you mind elaborating on how one would enter this space, aquire supplies/products, examples of licensing deals. Even just some trusted resources would be fine. This fascinates me, as I have wondered how some sellers on Amazon (or eBay but no thanks) become so large just by reselling other people's things on Amazon -- at the same time Amazon is the one who really wants to…

Sure happy to help. Your email in your profile appears to be invalid, but I'll write a few things here in case other folks are interested. They become big because the competitive edge is not in the supply, it's in the demand, as in, they have access to a customer base. Of course, one can't sell complete crap, supplies/products should fulfill a certain market demand, but supply is always secondary to having access to…

> e) Make sure besides exclusive rights,

How are exclusive rights promised by a manufacturer in China enforceable by a small time buyer not from China? What is the recourse in the event it’s found out the manufacturer violated the exclusivity agreement?

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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They then also refused to give a unique license to the product for Amazon to my friend This is a deal-breaker always for these types of arrangements. I've walked away after months of negotiations when suppliers renege of this key part of any distribution agreement. You cannot be in a position to build up someone else's product or brand, and have them take it away from you at their own discretion, with zero compensati…

It sounds like you have some expierence. Would you mind elaborating on how one would enter this space, aquire supplies/products, examples of licensing deals. Even just some trusted resources would be fine. This fascinates me, as I have wondered how some sellers on Amazon (or eBay but no thanks) become so large just by reselling other people's things on Amazon -- at the same time Amazon is the one who really wants to…

> This fascinates me, as I have wondered how some sellers on Amazon (or eBay but no thanks) become so large just by reselling other people's things on Amazon -- at the same time Amazon is the one who really wants to be that middle man.

All the evidence I see indicates Amazon does not want to be this middle man. Amazon wants to be the payment and platform middleman, that’s where all the profits lie due to infinite scale-ability and near zero marginal costs. They removed the ability to let you filter search results for items sold by Anazon.com years ago.

Amazon does not want to be in the 2% profit margin retail business where they are liable for inventory risk and other liabilities like product safety, etc.

They want to be like Visa and take a cut of each transaction. I would too, considering Visa’s profit margins versus Walmart’s.

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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It sounds like you have some expierence. Would you mind elaborating on how one would enter this space, aquire supplies/products, examples of licensing deals. Even just some trusted resources would be fine. This fascinates me, as I have wondered how some sellers on Amazon (or eBay but no thanks) become so large just by reselling other people's things on Amazon -- at the same time Amazon is the one who really wants to…

Sure happy to help. Your email in your profile appears to be invalid, but I'll write a few things here in case other folks are interested. They become big because the competitive edge is not in the supply, it's in the demand, as in, they have access to a customer base. Of course, one can't sell complete crap, supplies/products should fulfill a certain market demand, but supply is always secondary to having access to…

Unbelievably helpful thanks

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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Sure happy to help. Your email in your profile appears to be invalid, but I'll write a few things here in case other folks are interested. They become big because the competitive edge is not in the supply, it's in the demand, as in, they have access to a customer base. Of course, one can't sell complete crap, supplies/products should fulfill a certain market demand, but supply is always secondary to having access to…

> e) Make sure besides exclusive rights, How are exclusive rights promised by a manufacturer in China enforceable by a small time buyer not from China? What is the recourse in the event it’s found out the manufacturer violated the exclusivity agreement?

The same like any other relationship - have it in writing, with penalties specified, and besides the contract, do basic due diligence with your supplier. China is not some lawless backwater, despite the fake news bogeyman in recent years. You can get played out just the same by a supplier in Belgium - like any business relationship, you take steps to mitigate the risk, but nothing is ever 100% iron-clad. You should still get a written agreement.

*Edit: "Who else do you supply to" is a very common part of interacting with a supplier, and most of the time they are chomping at the bit to share their "famous customer list" with you. In fact, some suppliers even have pages on their website listing who their "authorised resllers/distributors" are. Having a chat with any of the others helps, and like any business relationship, it's a human relationship with some trust involved. You back things up with legal protections, but in the end, business is about the human aspect of things.

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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You've clearly never flown with them.

Right, because only those why fly them can possibly know how often they fall from the sky?

You can not crash and still be shitty.

Your ticket purchasing process can be an immensely frustrating experience, dodging a horde of dark patterns coming at you from every direction.

Your check-in process may be a horrible user trap (you must check-in from home, and print a boarding pass there. Said check-in closes 4 hours before takeoff, and there's a 40 Eur fee if you do it at the airport) which the EU had to explicitly ban.

Your refund/rebooking process may be outright illegal, planning on passengers being unaware of their full rights.

In the end, your safety record may not come into play at all: I don't care if your planes crash or not, because I'm never, ever, boarding one again, and neither will anyone who listens to me.

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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If this news can help to remember that behind a click on Amazon (or others), we need a physical flow to bring it at home.

Who can believe their promise with such a news? https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/about/the-climate-ple....

Of course it's easy to point the finger of blame to the others (here Amazon). But we are all responsible to consume many things we don't need.

Re: Amazon buys 11 Boeing 767s to expand its cargo fleet

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> e) Make sure besides exclusive rights, How are exclusive rights promised by a manufacturer in China enforceable by a small time buyer not from China? What is the recourse in the event it’s found out the manufacturer violated the exclusivity agreement?

The same like any other relationship - have it in writing, with penalties specified, and besides the contract, do basic due diligence with your supplier. China is not some lawless backwater, despite the fake news bogeyman in recent years. You can get played out just the same by a supplier in Belgium - like any business relationship, you take steps to mitigate the risk, but nothing is ever 100% iron-clad. You should s…

> China is not some lawless backwater, despite the fake news bogeyman in recent years.

Interesting. I always heard stories about designs being copied and sold under different names in very short time after releasing a product. And in Belgium, you have the EU courts to back you up in simple cases, but I was not aware if its similar in China (unless you had a certain amount of weight to throw around like a F500 company or something).

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