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Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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Looks like his donation/sponsorship page is down :-( I’m super excited someone is taking this on. Hopefully Apple contributes drivers as well — they only stand to gain from the success of this project.

Wouldn't the sponsorship page be this: https://www.patreon.com/marcan

https://github.com/sponsors/marcan is a better option.

(much lower fees present there)

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

#52

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I'd say there might be ongoing work to support Windows/BootCamp but in true Apple tradition (or maybe due to MS delays) it is being kept secret

That would make a lot of sense. Windows is in a tight spot right now because OEMs have lagged on ARM. Apple could offer MS a way out of that, while at the same time giving people one more reason to spend money on a Mac.

There is a significant number of people working at Microsoft who use Windows on a Mac as it's generally nice (and expensive) hardware. I'm sure they'd be thrilled to see Bootcamp operational on ARM Macs.

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

#53

It seems so amazing to me that Microsoft saw the ARM opportunity with Windows RT, released 8 years back but somehow managed to not succeed with a stellar ARM laptop story. Maybe Qualcomm is more to blame here for never progressing as well as Apple has done on chips but maybe the software experience was just not there. We would probably already have good ARM laptops running linux distros if Windows on ARM had taken of…

Maybe it is not Qualcomm that is to blame, but it is Apple to be praised. But I guess I am talking glass half full / half empty here, so nevermind :D

Yeah, Apple definitely deserves a lot of praise on these chips. They are not even incremental improvements but drastic ones which will probably change the landscape completely.

Like AWS was working on their own ARM chips, they now have a benchmark to go against if they even can. In DCs a lot of spend is on just power consumption. If these chips can really drive compute in servers at a much lower power consumption, it is just not monetarily good for the company but good for the planet too.

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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That would make a lot of sense. Windows is in a tight spot right now because OEMs have lagged on ARM. Apple could offer MS a way out of that, while at the same time giving people one more reason to spend money on a Mac.

Linus Tech Tips actually just released a video a couple of hours ago where they compared the Surface Pro X SQ2 with the M1 MacBook Air. It was not pretty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhESSZIXvCA

It’s 100% on the mark that video.

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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I hope this and projects like it spearhead a movement of ARM laptops outside of the Apple-sphere.

I wonder if System76, for example, has their eyes on being the first to market as “the Linux laptop on ARM”. Seems right up their alley.

Also worth noting that I understand that System76 and Apple are not comparable companies. One is a humble operation installing a custom Linux build on rebranded hardware, and the other is a vertically integrated powerhouse building it’s own hardware.

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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That would make a lot of sense. Windows is in a tight spot right now because OEMs have lagged on ARM. Apple could offer MS a way out of that, while at the same time giving people one more reason to spend money on a Mac.

Right, if MS is serious about Windows on ARM, they should support the Mac as a show case and also to allow all future Mac buyers the chance to run Windows. Of course, Apple can't announce much until Microsoft makes an announcement about Windows on AS Macs.

Is MS not busy looking at doing their own ARM silicon for future Windows powered Surface devices after release of M1 and the failure Qualcomm with the Snapdragon 8cx (we just use ARM reference designs) ???.

They do have the chops for it since they have done Xbox and Hololens and various other devices in-house.

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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Why? If they'd intended to shut this down, they would have a locked down boot loader like on iOS. Instead they deliberately built a boot loader which supported things like this.

Get people on board first. Lock it down once it's too late and everyone is invested.

So your opinion of Apple is just that they're pure evil, or what?

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

#58

I hope this and projects like it spearhead a movement of ARM laptops outside of the Apple-sphere. I wonder if System76, for example, has their eyes on being the first to market as “the Linux laptop on ARM”. Seems right up their alley. Also worth noting that I understand that System76 and Apple are not comparable companies. One is a humble operation installing a custom Linux build on rebranded hardware, and the other…

> I wonder if System76, for example, has their eyes on being the first to market as “the Linux laptop on ARM”.

They are not the first already: https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

#59

Looks like his donation/sponsorship page is down :-( I’m super excited someone is taking this on. Hopefully Apple contributes drivers as well — they only stand to gain from the success of this project.

There's also a GH Sponsors page: https://github.com/sponsors/marcan

Re: Asahi Linux: Linux on Apple Silicon project

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I see nothing wrong with any of these speculations. If you or Apple don't like speculation the answer is for them to communicate their intention.

They've plenty communicated their intention to not turn the Mac into the iPhone/iPad. And besides which, it would be a disastrous product strategy to do that, from a company that's absolutely top-of-the-ball when it comes to product strategy.

Are you serious?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

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