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Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by adwn »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #167
adwn wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't eat self-actualization, nor can you build houses from it. Sunshine and enjoyment of your work is not sufficient to sustain your body, not to speak of all the other needs that effectively require money to be fulfilled.

> Sunshine and enjoyment of your work is not sufficient to sustain your body, not to speak of all the other needs that effectively require money to be fulfilled. You've neglected to argue as to why these needs should be artificially subsidized by the issuance of state-enforced monopolies for certain concepts.

> You've neglected to argue as to why these needs should be artificially subsidized by the issuance of state-enforced monopolies for certain concepts.

... What? Avicebron argued that "financial reciprocation" should not be a priority of a creator, I countered that idealism won't keep you alive for long, and that creators need to make money to be able to create. Your post is completely beside the point.

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Post by Klonoar »

amelius wrote: post #45
f430 wrote: post #3

What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care . They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. It's the strongest example of consumer cultism. Absolute in their exceptionalism and ignorance. Similar problems discussed in the article are found in Tesla. The lowest common denominator of consumer cultism is surveillance and it's no surprise that both Apple and Tesla do exc…

> What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care. They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. From what I see in discussions: they do care. But it seems they have simply accepted Apple as a benevolent dictator.

What?

I think if people bothered to read beyond blind hatred, they'd see Apple users _do_ tend to care - and are often very critical of Apple, which is what you'd want. Hell, read any of Sneak's comments on here - they might be the perfect example.

Ultimately, until another ecosystem can match what Apple provides (Windows & Linux do not), I don't see a particular point in attempting to switch. I'd rather be critical of Apple, disable the things I don't like or trust, and then do actual things with my life.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by Klonoar »

m463 wrote: post #165
ece wrote: post #76

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I only see two differences between MacOS and iOS: kernel development is allowed on MacOS, and running self-signed code doesn't delete itself even if you don't pay like it does on iOS. Running unsigned code doesn't exist on MacOS anymore with Big Sur, unless you self-sign everything. Stop kernel development (going to be "higher friction" going forward) and a daemon to delete self-signed code, and it's iOS. Allowing ne…

I thought you could still disable stuff on macos and then run your own code to your heart's content. You know, boot into recovery and turn stuff off. Is that not true with Big Sur? On the other hand, there is no procedure like this on ios. I think you can run your own code, but you need an apple id (therefore apple's permission) and you can only run code for 7 days.

You can, even on the M1. It's more annoying now, sure, but still possible. Apple's been very clear that kernel extensions are going the way of the dodo, eventually, though - developers should be moving to DriverKit/etc.

In truth, it's actually a better system. Slowly becoming more of a hybrid/micro kernel.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by 6510 »

wait_a_minute wrote: post #53
breck wrote: post #36

We need to abolish IP Laws (aka "Imaginary Property" aka "Illogical Property" aka "Incongruent Property" aka "Invalidates Property Laws"—the other term is a big lie, don't repeat it). Not "reform". Not "compromise". Abolish. If 2020 taught me anything, it's that society can come close to the brink pretty quickly. I thought there was an inevitable trend toward freedom, but recently think it's perilous. We need ideas t…

I am genuinely interested in understanding how we could have innovation in a world where a creator is not entitled to benefits from their invention. Including any monetary benefits if they so choose.

Real innovators care about the journey not the money. Some money is needed sometimes to get or keep going, we have this money, we have plenty of money.

We can also chose to reward innovators both for the effort and the result. It should be in proportion tho, an invention that makes you the owner of the world is not desirable for anyone else.

And finally, the most ironic, you don't have innovation if you are renting it. (they don't even have to let you rent it) Its a well crafted con that turns you into a subject to be exploited in any way the ~~innovator~~ owner chooses.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by konjin »

jl6 wrote: post #190
konjin wrote: post #153

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>Second, putting out unaccessible PDF content is 100% certain to be problematic for people with accessibility needs. That's where you're wrong. A plain PDF/A is the simplest thing to scrape for text. You know what is a nightmare to deal with? Html with javascript: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html Try a screen reader on the above nightmare and tell me what you hear. For me it's: iframe-iframe-iframe-iframe-…

Since you’re a screen reader user I’d appreciate feedback on the aforementioned PDF website: https://www.lab6.com/0 I did very brief testing using an iOS screen reader and it worked OK but didn’t really expose any of the semantic tags.

    s/not because it easy/not beucase it's easy/g
    s/that ISO want 198/that ISO wants 198/g
Other than that 10/10. As readable as hacker news on my setup.

The only way that can be better if is you wrote it as pure text.

If you follow basic formatting like double new lines after headings and punctuation most screen readers do a better job of giving you the semantic information by breaks and tones than the always broken 'semantic tags'.

Put it another way, would you want to read raw html to make sure that what you thought was a

was actually a 

? That's what I get whenever I try and use those. Again a solution by people who don't need to eat their dog food.

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Post by bigiain »

warkdarrior wrote: post #189
bigiain wrote: post #159

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> installed via presumably verified initial media This is not a universally correct assumption. How does this chain of trust bootstrap for a first time (or stand alone) user who downloads Ubuntu from a non-Ubuntu system? If I've got MITM, I can change both the ISO (with the totally-not-verified public key) as well as the gpg sig to match using a private key I know (and gave you the public key to).

Sure. And how does a TLS connection for the ISO download solve this problem? You would need to make sure that the TLS connection is to the correct server. How do you check it is the right server? Probably by checking the hostname against some webpage and the TLS certificate against some CA roots in your browser. How you get the right hostname? How do you know the CA roots in your browser are correct? How do you know…

There's an extremely wide range of adversaries between "potentially capable of MITMing a network I use" and "potentially capable of screwing with my OS/browser's CA roots or actively acquiring and misusing an illegally obtained valid TLS cert for ubuntu.com".

Sure, most nation states can craft whatever TLS cert they want, with only some risk of bad press if they get caught signing a ubuntu.com TLS cert fraudulently via a CA they control/coerce. If those people are my adversary I'm screwed. "YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET MOSSAD'D UPON!"

A TLS connection for the download (and the gpg signature) protects against people like the disgruntled hotel IT guy, the kid futzing with the cafe wifi, an evil housemate, some crappy rooted IoT shit somebody hooked up to the wifi, an overly curious coworker or corporate IT drone, the red team in a company pen test.

I've heard the arguments here - that it's a difficult problem for all the mirror operators to add ssl certs, that it'll stop downloads being cacheable, etc. But I didn't really buy those arguments 5 years ago, and these days, with LetsEncrypt and HSTS - I think those arguments are even more bogus than they were in 2015...

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Post by slavik81 »

toyg wrote: post #112
goodpoint wrote: post #86

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Yes because it allows caching and encrypting the traffic would provide no benefit. APT supports downloading over Tor if you want to hide which distribution you are using.

I reckon it’s more about guaranteeing the integrity of packages in transit, rather than providing anonymity.

What integrity guarantees does TLS provide that GPG does not?

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by boxed »

breck wrote: post #36

We need to abolish IP Laws (aka "Imaginary Property" aka "Illogical Property" aka "Incongruent Property" aka "Invalidates Property Laws"—the other term is a big lie, don't repeat it). Not "reform". Not "compromise". Abolish. If 2020 taught me anything, it's that society can come close to the brink pretty quickly. I thought there was an inevitable trend toward freedom, but recently think it's perilous. We need ideas t…

IP includes trade marks. We absolutely can't abolish that. So be careful when you say stuff like this.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by boxed »

f430 wrote: post #3

What really puzzles me about Apple fans and it's userbase is that they do not care . They simply do not care at all what's being done to them. It's the strongest example of consumer cultism. Absolute in their exceptionalism and ignorance. Similar problems discussed in the article are found in Tesla. The lowest common denominator of consumer cultism is surveillance and it's no surprise that both Apple and Tesla do exc…

We care. And Apple cares which is why they publicly said this system as run right now was a mistake. Within a week of this going public.

The article linked here is pretending that didn't happen. And you are pretending, against all evidence, that Apple users don't care. But it's apple users who complained and sounded the alarm in the first place. Your statement is so obviously and trivially false it's crazy to see any one up voting it.

Re: Neofeudalism and the Digital Manor

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Post by _b8r0 »

andreilys wrote: post #121
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #106

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> a world where a creator is not entitled to benefits from their invention This is a mis-statement of the anti-IP case. Given the abolishment of IP laws, creators are not prevented from benefitting from their invention. They merely no longer have the benefit of the state regulators in preventing others from following the inventor's example. > Including any monetary benefits if they so choose. The "monetary benefit" h…

So Disney can steal the work of amateur animators and not pay them a dime. Great.

Funny you mention this. Disney is stealing the work of others and refusing to pay them royalties anyway:

https://www.denofgeek.com/books/disney-refuses-to-pay-royalt...

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