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My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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For me, Google only sends organic traffic to my posts that are 10-20 years old (no joke). My newer content, while verified by me as indexed by Google, receives zero traffic. For my old content, I have started to place warning banners for my users that they are reading old, and sometimes outdated content, that I only leave online for archival reasons. It makes me wonder if Google is doing this with my little blog, is…

Start embedding links in the text of your old content that point to your new content (when contextually appropriate, of course). Not as warnings, but if for some reason you mention a topic or word that's relevant to a newer article...

Which reminds me, I was really impressed with Justin O'Beirne's blogs on Apple & Google maps, specifically that older blog posts are explicitly flagged as being no longer accurate.

And his design is so clean that the flags are obvious without being obnoxious.

https://www.justinobeirne.com/cartography-comparison

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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It feels like there's two possible explanations here. One is that somehow the website has been incorrectly flagged or blacklisted, like the example he mentions with Bing. In that case, it seems like it'd be at least nice for Google to be able to look into it, but it also might be the sort of thing where Google just decides it's not worth the effort. The other possibility is that Google just updated their search algor…

The problem is that there are very few viable distribution channels that we are forced to rely on companies like Google. What other viable choices does this site have aside from Google?

Well, if there were no Google-like companies, what would this site do?

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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This is one of several posts I've seen on HN lately following a similar trend: sudden and unexpected drops in search engine traffic. On the one hand it must be jarring to suddenly have a drop in traffic. But is it necessarily indicative of a bad administration of a search engine? Popularity of sites shift. People's tastes change. Even without an algorithm change we would not expect search traffic to remain constant.…

You’re saying that user preference shifted, but in reality, Google’s preference shifted. That, to me, is the problem highlighted by this story and others.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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I’ve had similar experiences with other google products: My mom forgot her gmail password and no longer had the same mobile number for a reset, the secondary reset option was set to my email but would not send a reset despite this. We had a live session via thunderbird but there were no channels of support. Luckily we were able to register her old mobile number to achieve a password reset, thanks to a helpful phone p…

Wow. I'm you in both respects. I just had the same problem with my dad and even though he can send and receive email from his gmail account they still won't tell him the password. All he has is the fragile oauth token on mail.app on his apple smart phone that can only connect via wifi due to the loss of the old phone number. Additionally, my mail from my independent mailserver just started being marked as spam by goo…

I honestly wish the US government was banned from using Gmail. It has caused more problems than any usefulness warrants. Also, NSF is a pain too.

[edit: I wonder how many of the down voters have actually sent email to a government agency using Gmail or dealt with some of NSF email issues firsthand?]

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself anti-monopolist but lately I've been thinking...wouldn't breaking up American big tech companies put the US in a worse position to compete against Chinese tech companies?

Being in a more competitive industry generally reduces margins but increases the size of the market. Vertically integrated companies lose to aggressively competitive non-integrated competitors when they exist (and a monopolist is proscribed from buying them all up), because the existence of that competition means they can't be abusive or collect monopoly rents. Vertically integrated monopolies are sticky because you…

I'll give an example of a Canadian vertically integrated monopoly: BCE (Bell Canada Enterprises). BCE grew out of the incumbent phone company (Bell) in most of Ontario and Quebec. Over the years it has used the massive profits from telecom to extends its reach into other sectors of the economy. Over the past 10-15 years, it has made quite a few acquisition of various content producers. Most notably to me was the purchase of CTV and Discovery Channel.

Back in the 1980s, Ottawa had a local independent broadcast named CJOH. They produced their own local news at 6pm and late night. The CJOH news team was well respected and an active participant in the community. CJOH eventually got purchased by CTV and ultimately landed under the control of BCE / Bell Media. Shortly after Bell Media gained control a few years ago, they laid off longtime anchor Carol Anne Meehan. Not a good move in my view, as they brought on an entirely new and young team. Further cuts to the news staff have happened over the last few years as increasing use of technology has allowed further staff cuts -- everyone from camerapeople to editors and technical support staff. Each cut means one less means by which the news organization can learn about things that are happening in our community.

The acquisition of Discovery Channel was even worse in my opinion. From 1995 to 2018 Discovery Channel ran a show called Daily Planet, which was one of the only daily science news shows. This was a wonderful way to find out about all kinds of cool things going on in the world of science and technology. It aired on weekdays at 7pm after the 6 o'clock news. Bell Media cancelled the show on May 23, 2018.

The loss of Daily Planet is, in my opion, worse than that of a local news channel. Daily Planet was part of the reason for the existence of Discovery Channel. There are no real replacements being broadcast that I know of.

The reason I bring all this up is to show how the priorities of a monopoly impact existing services that are a public benefit. In my opinion, the BCE layoffs were not the result of the company losing money. The reasons were to free up cash flow to pay for Bell Canada's massive investments in building out its Fibre To The Home network. Bell has spent billions of dollars thus far building out FTTH across Ontario and Quebec, acquired the incumbent in Manitoba. Purchasing content producers that were once separate entities, then gutting them and using the savings to pay for FTTH construction is a brilliant strategy. Money that was previously an expense gets turned into capex that builds a new asset.

Sadly, our phone and TV bills don't go down in price despite us getting less new content. I had the chance to speak to folks at Discovery Channel at a conference back in the 1990s when I was a teenager, and their enthusiasm about bringing real science content to the public was amazing. I'm sad this has been lost at the alter of corporate greed.

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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I'm really torn over the author's website. On one hand, the design is much less ad-ridden and well-written than other SEO/affiliate link-driven websites.. but I don't see much value from it.

* the reviews for products are too short and vague

* until you actually read the top part and realize it was written by a human being, it looks exactly the same as all the other affiliate websites that get deranked (probably the reason he's getting 0 traffic)

* the "real reviews verified" badge screams SCAM to me, although I know less technical-minded people are persuaded by stuff like that

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

'they pay a lot of taxes' Firstly, they are 'minimising' their tax base[0], and second, is not committing crimes an achievement these days? [0] - https://developer-tech.com/news/2019/apr/08/tax-google-dodge... .

Everyone is doing it so investors expect it - not doing so would be a competitive disadvantage. A better and more permanent solution should be changed with legislation, not by asking individual companies to maximize their tax base, since this would also equally apply such a rule to everyone and not just companies under the public microscope.

The argument was: they are a great firm, upstanding, going above and beyongfor the good of society. Now they are cheating, but so is everyone elaw. Which is it?

Re: My Google Traffic Has Fallen to Zero

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I'm sure you have a good idea yourself what is going on here, given you have some good experience in online marketing etc.

Most likely, one or multiple of the algo's to determine value within results has been modified, which is a regular occurance. Has picked up the content on your site as not really beneficial / trustworthy for whatever the results are and so it has demoted your position.

Given almost every page of your site has at least 1 external referal link, its easy enough to imagine it being picked up as an auto generated site, with slapped in affiliates. Infact im surprised it hasnt happened sooner.

I'm not sure what you can do about it, other than reworking your entire site, obfuscating the referal links somehow and then hoping for the best.

Or branch out into other methods of content and earning if this is the only source of income for you, its rough, but that google algo and others are black boxes that you cant really depend on.. Eventually it will clear everyone off that's not investing in staying on top of these things.

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