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Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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TIL Facebook had a "chief of advertising integrity."

Be that as it may, I'm not sure we want to be dependent on Facebook to regulate the businesses and political organizations that advertise on its platforms.

Perhaps the US should consider creating a Federal Trade Commission that could regulate advertisers, and perhaps a Federal Election Commission to regulate election-related spending, including advertising.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

#222

TIL Facebook had a "chief of advertising integrity." Be that as it may, I'm not sure we want to be dependent on Facebook to regulate the businesses and political organizations that advertise on its platforms. Perhaps the US should consider creating a Federal Trade Commission that could regulate advertisers, and perhaps a Federal Election Commission to regulate election-related spending, including advertising.

It sounds good at first, until you find out the role was filled by a swarm of bees shaped like a human being.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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My point is that Oil Companies can improve their behavior only by putting their business at risk.

I don't think it's a justifiable for risk mitigation reasons to act as the oil industry has. What they can do more of is invest in more R&D for moonshot energy products. Or invest into existing green energy areas. I believe there are just better short term returns on PR (deceiving the public as much as possible), buying help & protection from regulators, and the status quo generally. I also believe the powers that be…

Or oil companies could pack up their tent and wander off

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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I'm finding these two sentences hard to reconcile. > If Zuckerberg, Sandberg, et al could improve Facebook's behavior without putting the business at risk, they would do it in a heartbeat. But it appears they can't. > Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large

Imagine yourself as the CEO of a manufacturer that pollutes rivers, and you sincerely want to stop polluting, but if you stop polluting, the company's costs would increase to the point it would no longer be able to compete against all the other companies that continue polluting -- and they're trying to eat your lunch you every day. So, if you stop polluting you would quickly lose relevance, be forced to shut down pla…

> Moreover, when the company was started, no one anywhere realized that polluting rivers was so bad for everyone. No one knew back then; no one thought of it as a problem.

Zuckerberg called early users “dumb fucks” for trusting him with their data. That’s the demeanour of someone with bad (selfish) intentions from the start. Just because the damage he ended up doing is worse than the initial damage he predicted, it doesn’t excuse his continued morally bankrupt behaviour.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

I can't find it now, but I remember a story from somebody in the Lean Manufacturing world about a place that was having safety problems, so they appointed somebody Safety Director. This signaled to everybody that safety was that one guy's problem, not theirs. Accidents went up further and stayed up until they got rid of the Safety Directory position and made everybody responsible for safety. That resonated for me bec…

As someone who works in accessibility and interfaces with folks at big companies, I can see how this type of problem would apply in lots of areas.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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hahaha they just appoint and if something wrong happens "Chief of Advertising Integrity" can be blamed and Mark can be act as god providing free services to small companies and people.

Corporation has become so much evil and greedy, they have used every strategy so they cannot be taken down or cannot be regulate properly.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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> As a corporation, Facebook truly seems to be trying to improve its behavior for the benefit of society at large Sorry, that's a hard disagree from me and I think you couldn't be further off the mark. Facebook's entire raison d'etre from day 1 is to take as much data from as many sources as possible, then use the most powerful computers, programmed by the brightest minds, to use that data to maximise their profit wi…

My point is that Facebook can improve its behavior only by putting its business at risk. If Zuckerberg, Sandberg, et al could improve Facebook's behavior without putting the business at risk , they would do it in a heartbeat. But it appears they can't. Their efforts are thus sincere but highly constrained: They will never voluntarily do anything that would put the business -- their life's work -- at risk. If I may us…

Usually pollution is the result of some other activity that itself results in profit. In this case, the pollution itself is the profit source.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

Honest question, what did Mark Zuckerberg do that makes you think he has “no integrity”?

secretely retracting messages he sent to others from their inboxes, a feature exlcusively made available to him[1], with a straight face telling people that discourse on his website does not have influence on elections, tying his donations to having his name put on a hospital which is petty as hell, I mean pick your poison

[1]https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/6/17203114/facebook-mark-zuc...

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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"Chief of Advertising Integrity" does anyone take that title seriously? Forget advertising, Facebook and it's CEO himself has no integrity.

I would not take any titles at Facebook seriously. We know that they create titles like this and assign them when useful for PR purposes.1 I think that is just one more thing that prevents me from taking anything about "Facebook, Inc." seriously. Powerful yes, legitimate no.

1 The story of the Onavo founder they took on after the Onavo purchase was one example.

Re: Facebook's advertising integrity chief leaves company

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There are pros and cons of having dedicated teams for work that also has to be accomplished by other teams. For instance, it's not a good idea to skip having a security team using the logic that "other teams will just think its that one teams job." The security team provides expertise and (with cooperative management or other teams) can enact policies that influence the rest of the organization to the benefit of secu…

Aww, c'mon, tell me that QA/security/accessibility/whatever isn't regarded as a meaningless hoop to be jumped through as quickly and with the least effort possible so that you can get real work done. Ain't nobody got time for that rigamarole.

If you're shipping buggy and insecure software, you will soon get a whole lot of free time on your hands.
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