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Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Can anyone link to some recipes that feature plant based protein? Here's a few my wife and I really like:

https://food52.com/recipes/30932-heidi-swanson-s-pan-fried-g...

https://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/cowboy-beans/

https://www.ranchogordo.com/blogs/recipes/spicy-baked-royal-...

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Being satiated being properly nourished.

The majority of your comments on HN are downvoted because they are all one-liner negative quips. Is there a reason you take your anger out on HN? Have you considered the zen of a plant-based diet?

Not trying to be negative, just trying to encourage critical dialogue. If you’re happy eating a plant based diet, I’m 100% supportive of your decision to live that way.

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.

When I became vegetarian I was 'hungry'.l in the way you describe for about 1-2 weeks, after that the issue disappeared and a plate of beans is very satisfying and keeps my stomach happy for a long period. I would guess this is a lot about habituation/expectations and less about whether the food is meat/milk product/soy/grains. Therefore also some caution about the study: eating an unfamiliar food a few times might l…

that matches my experience as well. whenever i've actively changed my diet (to small meals or low-carb, not necessarily vegetarian), it takes ~10 days for the body to re-habituate and settle on the new norm.

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.

When I became vegetarian I was 'hungry'.l in the way you describe for about 1-2 weeks, after that the issue disappeared and a plate of beans is very satisfying and keeps my stomach happy for a long period. I would guess this is a lot about habituation/expectations and less about whether the food is meat/milk product/soy/grains. Therefore also some caution about the study: eating an unfamiliar food a few times might l…

What is long period? Because plate of beans keep me full longer then non-beans vegetarian food. But meat based plate keeps me full even longer.

I don't think beans are unfamiliar for most people. We do eat them regularly. But, they don't make us as full as meat.

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Just things like Choline, but feel free to starve your brain (literally and figuratively) if you really want to: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190829184143.h...

That link doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not vegan/vegetarian diets are missing choline. It's that the UK nutritional chart doesn't track choline at all. It has nothing to do with diet. I was super confused at how this paper had anything to do with the conversation except to say choline exists and is important. Afterwards I googled and choline isn't exclusive to meat sources so I'm still confused…

From the linked article:

“The primary sources of dietary choline are found in beef, eggs, dairy products, fish, and chicken, with much lower levels found in nuts, beans, and cruciferous vegetables, such as broccoli.

In 1998, recognising the importance of choline, the US Institute of Medicine recommended minimum daily intakes. These range from 425 mg/day for women to 550 mg/day for men, and 450 mg/day and 550 mg/day for pregnant and breastfeeding women, respectively, because of the critical role the nutrient has in fetal development.

In 2016, the European Food Safety Authority published similar daily requirements.

...

‘This is....concerning given that current trends appear to be towards meat reduction and plant-based diets," says Dr Derbyshire.’”

Is something unclear about this?

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.

> Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. Ultimately, as with all biological systems, its hard to make absolute assertions of the most optimal diet (the sample size in this trial is n=43 which is pretty small when you consider the variation in peoples gut biomes due to genetics and lifestyle) be it full carnivore to the strictest form of veganism, there will always be people who can perform on these diets. But mos…

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This is the standard way this is discussed. Most people aim for 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight.

Yeah but I mean why mix imperial and metric units in the same situation? Seems mind-bending and error-prone.

It’s a 1:1 ratio with those units. Hard to imagine anything less mind-bending/error-prone. Set your body scale to pounds and your food scale to grams. Done.

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For anyone else wondering what TVP is, it's textured vegetable protein (soy). It turns out I eat it all the time in microwave burritos, because it saves the manufacturer money to mix it with the ground beef.

what is funny is that there is no cheap TVP for sale in the stores...you can get the substitute meat patties (mostly soy) etc for sale in many grocery stores, but it is not cheap at all...costs considerably more than the cheapest hamburger, pork or chicken...if the food manufacturers can save money by using TVP mixed in with meat, then why is there no cheap TVP for sale in the stores ?

There's is actually relatively inexpensive flavored textured vegetable protein available in the stores though; soy chorizo (or soyrizo) is about the same price as meat, even though it probably has much lower sales.

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post #75

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That link doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not vegan/vegetarian diets are missing choline. It's that the UK nutritional chart doesn't track choline at all. It has nothing to do with diet. I was super confused at how this paper had anything to do with the conversation except to say choline exists and is important. Afterwards I googled and choline isn't exclusive to meat sources so I'm still confused…

From the linked article: “The primary sources of dietary choline are found in beef, eggs, dairy products, fish, and chicken, with much lower levels found in nuts, beans, and cruciferous vegetables, such as broccoli. In 1998, recognising the importance of choline, the US Institute of Medicine recommended minimum daily intakes. These range from 425 mg/day for women to 550 mg/day for men, and 450 mg/day and 550 mg/day f…

Sorry, most of the article appeared to be about that UK isn't releasing daily choline requirements so I was a little confused. It also doesn't say whether or not there's actual evidence that choline deficiency due to a vegetarian diet exists, much less is linked to something?

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This is an interesting subject. I wish I knew and understood more, so I can eat less meat and eat more healthily. My problem is that I’m Chinese and I live in Hong Kong. I’ve lived many years in Montréal before but I never picked up any “Western” culinary knowledge. Meanwhile, I get the impression that a lot of these nutritional studies seem to be based on Western diet, and there are ingredients that we Chinese are n…

My brother who is east asian and is vegetarian follows anything that goes along with buddhist eating styles (except he also declines fish).
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