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Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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Being satiated being properly nourished.

The majority of your comments on HN are downvoted because they are all one-liner negative quips.

Is there a reason you take your anger out on HN? Have you considered the zen of a plant-based diet?

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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This matches my own observations where swapping a pure 'bran' cereal for any other breakfast meal allows me to feel fuller while eating less. Also, subbing TVP for mince is also a way of increasing fibre and protein at the same time. After hydration TVP is almost double protein by weight compared to store-bought mince (at least where I shop), and it also has a good dose of fibre content, and no fat. Once again, I wen…

If only TVP were easy to buy worldwide. I suspect you're in the US where I've seen it offered cheaply in bulk. Elsewhere it seems unobtanium.

Try a grocery that carries Taiwanese (most asian grocers) or Mexican food. These places usually have it for sale cheap.

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This is an interesting subject. I wish I knew and understood more, so I can eat less meat and eat more healthily.

My problem is that I’m Chinese and I live in Hong Kong. I’ve lived many years in Montréal before but I never picked up any “Western” culinary knowledge. Meanwhile, I get the impression that a lot of these nutritional studies seem to be based on Western diet, and there are ingredients that we Chinese are not familiar with (e.g. I can’t name at least half of the beans and vegetables that go into a salad at Passion by Gérard Dubois), let alone know where to buy without getting ripped off. Things that one would find completely ordinary and affordable in US/Canada can be ridiculously expensive and/or hard to find in Hong Kong.

If anybody has recommendations (books, YouTube channels, links, etc.) for someone living in East Asia to replicate similarly satiating, nutritious, and appealing meals, that would be awesome

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The high protein vegetable meal has 4 times the fibre as the high protein meat meal. The next recommended article is Protein from Meat or Vegetable Sources in Meals Matched for Fiber Content has Similar Effects on Subjective Appetite Sensations and Energy Intake-A Randomized Acute Cross-Over Meal Test Study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29337861/

I don’t get the obsession with fiber. Cramming as much fiber as you can into every meal makes eating a slog and makes it less likely you’ll be able to pack in all your daily macronutrients, because you’ll feel too full to eat.

Feeling too full to eat while not maxing out on your calories is a desirable goal for many people.

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> Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. Ultimately, as with all biological systems, its hard to make absolute assertions of the most optimal diet (the sample size in this trial is n=43 which is pretty small when you consider the variation in peoples gut biomes due to genetics and lifestyle) be it full carnivore to the strictest form of veganism, there will always be people who can perform on these diets. But mos…

Did you actually cook those animal products at the vegan/veg restaurant? If so, that was very rude of you.

> Did you actually cook those animal products at the vegan/veg restaurant? If so, that was very rude of you.

Yes, but two points: we shared a kitchen layout with our sister catering kitchen right next to us. So I used their equipment when I cooked, also we had a cleaning company come in daily to do a deep clean of the equipment.

I get the sentiment, but honestly you don't want to know how much cross-contaminated food you eat when you go to a restaurant. Its just the nature of the beast, especially when you share walk-ins and do prep with the same equipment etc...

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Vegan protein powder tastes pretty great. I use a Costco brand. You can add it to almost any meal. If you are lifting weights, its almost impossible to get enough vegan sources of protein to meet the 1g / 1 lb of body weight that is usually recommended. Actually, if anyone knows how to put together 150g+ protein /day on a vegan diet in under 2100 calories I would be interested. I would switch over at least a few of m…

> 1g / 1 lb Why would you mix units like this?!

Why do we measure pascal's?

Because it's a standard. It's not something they made up.

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Tempeh is a great source of protein and easy enough for many people to make at home. You can add it as a source of protein to a wide range of dishes with surprising results. It's even good when cubed and added to spaghetti marinara as a meatball substitute.

Slice it kind of thin, marinate in soy sauce, maple syrup and a dash of smoked paprika for a couple of hours (at least). Bake it for 20 minutes in the oven. Tasty.

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The high protein vegetable meal has 4 times the fibre as the high protein meat meal. The next recommended article is Protein from Meat or Vegetable Sources in Meals Matched for Fiber Content has Similar Effects on Subjective Appetite Sensations and Energy Intake-A Randomized Acute Cross-Over Meal Test Study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29337861/

I don’t get the obsession with fiber. Cramming as much fiber as you can into every meal makes eating a slog and makes it less likely you’ll be able to pack in all your daily macronutrients, because you’ll feel too full to eat.

I think you may be missing a few things. Fiber is important to avoid painful stool compaction. Soluble fiber also slows carb absorbtion and lowers the glycemic index of a meal which is generally a good thing.

As to your macronutrient concern, unless you are trying to eat 4000+ calories which is about when it becomes a chore to eat (I once had a job where I lost weight eating less than that), high fiber food isn’t going to make it hard to get your macro nutrients with most modern diets. And foods high in fiber tend to have more micronutrients. For instance the germ in whole grain is literally the nutrients needed to kickstart a seed into a plant.

Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)

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This is interesting and clashes with my personal experience. I eat two vegetarian meals a day which usually include beans, eggs, or oats. In my experience meat is considerably more satiating than meals with beans or eggs but less satiating than the meals with oats.

Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.

When I became vegetarian I was 'hungry'.l in the way you describe for about 1-2 weeks, after that the issue disappeared and a plate of beans is very satisfying and keeps my stomach happy for a long period.

I would guess this is a lot about habituation/expectations and less about whether the food is meat/milk product/soy/grains. Therefore also some caution about the study: eating an unfamiliar food a few times might leave a very different effect than something the body is used to.

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Tempeh is a great source of protein and easy enough for many people to make at home. You can add it as a source of protein to a wide range of dishes with surprising results. It's even good when cubed and added to spaghetti marinara as a meatball substitute.

Slice it kind of thin, marinate in soy sauce, maple syrup and a dash of smoked paprika for a couple of hours (at least). Bake it for 20 minutes in the oven. Tasty.

Tofu slices soaked in a few spoons of soy sauce and a few drops of liquid smoke, then fried in olive oil until crunchy. Delicious bacon that my non-veggie family all prefer over real bacon.
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