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> 1g / 1 lb Why would you mix units like this?!
Because the recommended amount of grams of protein you need per day for body building is usually around 1g of protein for every 1 pound of bodyweight
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Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)
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And you get just as much if not more nutrients from plant based meals?
Plant based diets are well known to be deficient in numerous essential nutrients.
The average US diet is deficient in numerous essential nutrients. You can eat healthy on a plant based diet or omni diet, but just adding or removing animal products is still not going to make an unhealthy diet healthy.
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Yeah but I mean why mix imperial and metric units in the same situation? Seems mind-bending and error-prone.
Because (at least in the US) we weigh ourselves in pounds and weigh protein by the gram. That’s kinda of the long and the short of it lol.
Somebody made a humorous flowchart about using imperial vs metric: https://preview.redd.it/k1brffgbngk31.png?width=681&format=p...
There a lot of situations I can imagine from that flowchart where you mix systes in a single sentence.
Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)
#44This is interesting and clashes with my personal experience. I eat two vegetarian meals a day which usually include beans, eggs, or oats. In my experience meat is considerably more satiating than meals with beans or eggs but less satiating than the meals with oats.
Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.
Mine too, with caveats. A steak + veggies and I'm satiated and alert for hours. Similar calorie content with beans or other vegetable sources and I'm hungrier sooner and often feel sluggish/de-energised. I also don't particularly enjoy the increased mass and volume of food I need to eat if I exclude meat from my diet.
Still, I think there's an element of balance here. If I eat beef too many days on the trot I don't end up feeling so great either. The key thing is to keep it mixed up with a good variety of veggies, meat, and carbs[0].
[0] I will say that overly processed carbs like pasta, pizza base, etc., and even things like rice tend to leave me hungry, sluggish and irritable if I have too much of them. Potatoes seem to cause fewer issues.
Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)
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Plant based diets are well known to be deficient in numerous essential nutrients.
Mostly amino acids. There are simple rules to follow to ensure you get complete nutrition and amino acid profiles. Otherwise what nutrients are you really missing?
Just things like Choline, but feel free to starve your brain (literally and figuratively) if you really want to: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190829184143.h...
Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)
#46I think it's related to the fermentation going on in your stomach. I'm not sure if it's the best way to become satiated. I personally find saturated fats to be much more satiating, I can go without food for a full day without feeling hungry if I eat enough.
Fermentation happens in the gut where all the bacteria is, right? Does fullness in the gut translate to feeling full?
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This matches my own observations where swapping a pure 'bran' cereal for any other breakfast meal allows me to feel fuller while eating less. Also, subbing TVP for mince is also a way of increasing fibre and protein at the same time. After hydration TVP is almost double protein by weight compared to store-bought mince (at least where I shop), and it also has a good dose of fibre content, and no fat. Once again, I wen…
For anyone else wondering what TVP is, it's textured vegetable protein (soy). It turns out I eat it all the time in microwave burritos, because it saves the manufacturer money to mix it with the ground beef.
Works well for tacos too. I shy away from TVP since it’s relatively highly processed. Beans work, especially lentils for a ground beef replacement - beluga, sprouted green, or any of the varieties which don’t quickly loosen up like red.
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This is the standard way this is discussed. Most people aim for 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight.
Yeah but I mean why mix imperial and metric units in the same situation? Seems mind-bending and error-prone.
Because mixing units but keeping coefficients 1:1 means there's no math, as long as you measure your bodyweight in pounds and have a way of measuring your protein in grams (which food packaging does, even in the U.S.).
Mixing coefficients instead of units means you need to express it as 2.2g/kg which means having to do a calculation, or two calculations if you need to convert your bodyweight from pounds to kilograms.
Re: Meals based on vegetable protein sources (beans and peas) are more satiating (2016)
#49This is interesting and clashes with my personal experience. I eat two vegetarian meals a day which usually include beans, eggs, or oats. In my experience meat is considerably more satiating than meals with beans or eggs but less satiating than the meals with oats.
Yeah, this clashes with my experience too. I experimented with vegetarian meals a few months back and found I could eat literally 1kg+ of cooked lentils/beans/etc and still feel hungry. <500g of chicken breast (plus vegetables), on the other hand, would see me through.
You eat a kilo worth of food in a single meal ?
Do you dig trenches for a living or what ?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mostly amino acids. There are simple rules to follow to ensure you get complete nutrition and amino acid profiles. Otherwise what nutrients are you really missing?
Just things like Choline, but feel free to starve your brain (literally and figuratively) if you really want to: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190829184143.h...
That link doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not vegan/vegetarian diets are missing choline. It's that the UK nutritional chart doesn't track choline at all. It has nothing to do with diet. I was super confused at how this paper had anything to do with the conversation except to say choline exists and is important. Afterwards I googled and choline isn't exclusive to meat sources so I'm still confused what vegetarian/vegan diets and choline deficiency have to do with each other- very common vegan/vegetarian foods are high in choline like brocoli, peas, chickpeas, various legumes, etc.
Could you cite studies that correlate vegetarian/vegan diets with deficiencies in nutrition?