As a Scotsman, this is a sad day. My only hope is that we leave the Union and that Ireland can work out it's differences and pursue reunification. There is nothing else left for it. A tragic time to be British and nothing to celebrate here.
UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years
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#73Time to emigrate from the U.K. to a more enlightened country. What countries would you go to as an English expat for a better life? Where can you change a useless English citizenship for another?
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Except the ex-colonies want nothing to do with the UK. We can smell the fear and desperation. There is nothing in it for us. We aren't going to bail out the UK or take the influx of economic refugees.
> Except the ex-colonies want nothing to do with the UK. That's a wild exaggeration. The UK is a tremendous export market for the US, we want everything to do with them, there is a lot in it for us ($700 billion per decade in purchased goods). Plus we have a rough split on trade, one of the few major nations we don't have a large trade deficit with. The British import more US goods than the Germans do, and nearly as…
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#75Yay. Now we're free. Oh wait, no, it's just that absolutely everything got harder, more expensive, more nationalistic, more pathetic and sad. It's all incredibly depressing. Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in as soon as those Tory f's are out.
> Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in New old people are created every day. So I wouldn't necessarily count on it. I hope you're right though.
Europe is a tricky problem, but the way Brexit specifically has happened (Lie, Damned Lies, and fake statistics - at best) means the only real lesson from this is that referenda are truly disastrous for complex policy decisions.
Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years
#76As a Scotsman, this is a sad day. My only hope is that we leave the Union and that Ireland can work out it's differences and pursue reunification. There is nothing else left for it. A tragic time to be British and nothing to celebrate here.
As an Englishman, I'm entirely in favor of Scottish independence. It would save us a considerable amount of money.
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> Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in New old people are created every day. So I wouldn't necessarily count on it. I hope you're right though.
Those new old people will have a bit less nostalgia for the world wars and the empire.
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Agree. I personally think Labour blew it, big time. But: the lies that got us out of the EU were pretty unstoppable. Selling an out message on the back of sensationalist, shock messages was an easy PR hit. We'll see. Personally, I'll always feel and be European. I reckon we'll be back.
It's perfectly consistent to feel European and also feel that EU membership is not a net positive for the UK. Being pro-Brexit does not make one less of a European.
Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years
#79Yay. Now we're free. Oh wait, no, it's just that absolutely everything got harder, more expensive, more nationalistic, more pathetic and sad. It's all incredibly depressing. Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in as soon as those Tory f's are out.
Personal opinion. Tribalism prevails, humans have no fix. Perhaps in another reality or dimension it is conceivable for people to come together and form a truly resourceful world government. Wait till you see how the lack of world coordination keeps this virus thriving in half of the planet. While we plot beautiful statistics to show which tribe has less cases in a non-uniform response. Hail the great UK for awakenin…
Re: UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years
#80Yay. Now we're free. Oh wait, no, it's just that absolutely everything got harder, more expensive, more nationalistic, more pathetic and sad. It's all incredibly depressing. Here's hoping our kids manage to vote us back in as soon as those Tory f's are out.