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How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by jacques_chester »

vertr wrote: post #6

The author is selling people on living his lifestyle, a lifestyle he gained by telling people how to live his lifestyle. These sorts of bloggers constantly talk about 'changing the world' but ultimately they aren't promoting people to build useful products and services, but to step up and join the blogging wealthy. Are there people making good money blogging? Of course. The problem is in the 'token' people who sell m…

> The author is selling people on living his lifestyle, a lifestyle he gained by telling people how to live his lifestyle.

I have referred elsewhere to this phenomenon as "Happy Clappy Capitalism"[1].

Maybe we need a new site -- clappitalism.com -- to keep an eye on them.

[1] http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/20/happy-clapping-capitalis...

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by whiletruefork »

vertr wrote: post #6

The author is selling people on living his lifestyle, a lifestyle he gained by telling people how to live his lifestyle. These sorts of bloggers constantly talk about 'changing the world' but ultimately they aren't promoting people to build useful products and services, but to step up and join the blogging wealthy. Are there people making good money blogging? Of course. The problem is in the 'token' people who sell m…

I agree in principle that claiming the path to A is by doing B is generally a pyramid scheme situation. However, this author came across differently because of his specific situation. I read it more along the lines of the Randy Pausch quotation about brick walls keeping us from achieving what we want.

'The brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out; the brick walls are there to give us a chance to show how badly we want something. The brick walls are there to stop the people who don't want it badly enough. They are there to stop the other people!'

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by vertr »

whiletruefork wrote: post #12
vertr wrote: post #6

The author is selling people on living his lifestyle, a lifestyle he gained by telling people how to live his lifestyle. These sorts of bloggers constantly talk about 'changing the world' but ultimately they aren't promoting people to build useful products and services, but to step up and join the blogging wealthy. Are there people making good money blogging? Of course. The problem is in the 'token' people who sell m…

I agree in principle that claiming the path to A is by doing B is generally a pyramid scheme situation. However, this author came across differently because of his specific situation. I read it more along the lines of the Randy Pausch quotation about brick walls keeping us from achieving what we want. 'The brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out; the brick walls are there to g…

Explain to me how it makes it any better because of his situation? He's selling scammy make money online products. Do the ends justify the means?

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by dennisgorelik »

vertr wrote: post #6

The author is selling people on living his lifestyle, a lifestyle he gained by telling people how to live his lifestyle. These sorts of bloggers constantly talk about 'changing the world' but ultimately they aren't promoting people to build useful products and services, but to step up and join the blogging wealthy. Are there people making good money blogging? Of course. The problem is in the 'token' people who sell m…

Exactly: very impressive motivational speech... yet very dangerous. MLMs use exactly that approach in recruiting.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by esmevane »

vertr wrote: post #10
esmevane wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'll find that the article is saying: decide on your goals, be determined and work hard to obtain them, and quitcher bitchin'. I didn't discover any mention of magic.

I think you missed the context of my comment. This article is a double edged sword. Sure it contains a 'pick yourself up by your bootstraps' call to action but the other edge is that they are marketing the exact solution to the problem that they created in the post (that you aren't happy).

No, I believe that I do get what you're saying. I just don't agree that the message preaches magical thinking. It very clearly depicts a process of deciding on a goal, and focusing your efforts (actual efforts) to obtaining that specific goal.

In this specific case, you seem to me, to be off-put by the fact that he hustles with motivational speaking to obtain his goals. I think, personally, that the very hustle is a great example of why he should be listened to - he's very clearly determined and focused.

That doesn't mean he's advocating his exact profession, and it doesn't mean he's telling people to sit around and let the cosmos give them gold stars for thinking positively, does it?

(Edit: Aside from the blogger relationship, though, I'm curious as to what the article has to do with this site, I'll admit.)

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by ozcar »

you cynical people. This guy's faced and overcome more hardships than most people and he tells his story as a motivation for others to have a little hope that they can use the web to improve their lives and you start accusing him of MLM?

Sad - take a look at yourselves and take it as the inspirational story that it is.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by vertr »

esmevane wrote: post #16
vertr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you missed the context of my comment. This article is a double edged sword. Sure it contains a 'pick yourself up by your bootstraps' call to action but the other edge is that they are marketing the exact solution to the problem that they created in the post (that you aren't happy).

No, I believe that I do get what you're saying. I just don't agree that the message preaches magical thinking. It very clearly depicts a process of deciding on a goal, and focusing your efforts (actual efforts) to obtaining that specific goal. In this specific case, you seem to me, to be off-put by the fact that he hustles with motivational speaking to obtain his goals. I think, personally, that the very hustle is a…

I don't think the post is meant to be just generally motivational, he lays out specific tasks that people should do that align with what he did. He isn't just saying 'go out and live your dreams.' He is saying 'go out and live my dreams.'

"You want to quit your job and become a professional blogger? You can. You want to travel around the world, living life to its fullest? You can. You want to dedicate your every hour to helping people and making the world a better place? You can."

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by muhfuhkuh »

I'd love to move to my version of Paradise (Vancouver, Canada, of all places). I love hearing the stories of people who say "it's simple, just scout out a place for a couple weeks, find an area in Paradise to live, and move there". But, I looked at Citizenship and Immigration Canada, and it seems really unlikely that a large number of humanity (including myself, save winning the lottery or being a logging/petroleum worker) will be allowed to live there.

So, is it "anywhere outside the US/Canada" that's easy to live in without being rich, or are people just moving there and just kinda winging it without actually becoming residents/citizens?

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