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You think there is no evidence the sun will rise tomorrow?
I'm really trying to make the point that there is evidence that vaccination reduces spread, if you open your mind a little. My use of sarcasm is maybe not the best way to convey that, but I am who I am.
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I just spoke with some people in Israel. None of whom are healthcare workers. They all got the first shot of the vaccine. ~4 people.
Were they older citizens? Israel has opened up vaccinations for healthcare workers and anyone above the age of 60. There are a few other groups getting vaccinations as well - I don't know all of them, but I know of some people working in nursing homes or other similar jobs. In addition, there are people hanging around the vaccine administration centers at the end of their workday, and hoping that they have leftover v…
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Yes? I think you covered the main points which don’t seem to disagree with what I was saying although from your response it seems like you think they do? The caveat about the sample size and area is valid, but it did cover 9 million people which is a significant proportion of the population.
You claimed that suicide rates are unaffected. They are not. They have increased. We don't know why they have increased, we don't even know if the current numbers are accurate. It may very well be due to lockdown. Suicide rates may well be higher than has currently been reported. This report acknowledges that. You however did not. You pretty much trivialized the severity of the truth behind these horrible numbers. I…
I stick by my original interpretation of the report in line with your highlighted points, which is also in line with how the Samaritans (!!!) interpreted the report.
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where did you find these figures? I've been trying to find some reliable source to keep an eye on it and I haven't been very successful so far
Check this out: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations The sources they use to compile the data are listed here: https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/blob/master/public/dat...
Berlin today closed it's sole vaccination center. Allegedly because of a lack of interest by the target audience. So we now reserve all doses, not just the second one. Total organizational fubar.
That's hard to believe in multi million city there was not enough people to fill on one center. Maybe there was something other preventing people from going there? Do you have source?
https://m.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/zu-wenig-rueckmeldung-zu-we...
As far as I was able to connect the pieces the organization was a total disaster. Mobile teams going into nursing homes do not vaccinate the people working there. These people should have come to the center, but could not because the were working at that time. Other elderly people (not living in nursing homes) should have come to the center but did not receive the invitation in time.
This kind of utter incompetence is, sadly, quite typical in Berlin.
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They had to pull a few because of side effects during the trials and some just not working. Producing vast amounts before they have been tested at all would have been costly when they had to throw them out.
Due by the first 100 000 recipients, 3 people had an allergic reaction. Those 3 people still received a second dose. It would not only be costly to throw out the vaccines, but also stupid.
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Due by the first 100 000 recipients, 3 people had an allergic reaction. Those 3 people still received a second dose. It would not only be costly to throw out the vaccines, but also stupid.
Do you have a full list of reactions? Where can we find that informatiin?
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I thought that the point of vaccinating essential workers first is that they are those that are more likely to spread the virus so by starting with them you stop the virus before it reaches the seniors. Depending on the factors (% of seniors vs. essential workers, availability of vaccine) I can see either approach being more effective.
Not aware of evidence that vaccination stops or reduces spread. Given that asymptomatic and presymptomatic people are the main spreaders, it's certainly not a given. Vaccinating front line health and care workers does make sense for two reasons 1) Far more likely to catch it 2) Far more problematic if they catch it and are off ill because of it Other front line workers like police probably less important -- less like…
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/getting-the-vaccine-d...
Professor Chris Whitty, England’s chief medical officer, recently told a press conference that true herd immunity will only occur if we have vaccines that can reduce transmission between people. At the moment, we don’t know if they do.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/pm/who-warns-vaccines-...
But the World Health Organisation says even though vaccines have been created.. none of those will necessarily stop the spread of the virus, rather - only stop the virus from becoming a serious disease inside our bodies.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronaviru...
"They do not show that they prevent you from potentially carrying this virus transiently and infecting others," Moderna Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks told Axios, adding the public should not “over-interpret the results” of the vaccine yet.
I'd defer to Moderna's CMO, Englands CMO, and the WHO, but it does make sense -- after all the vaccine helps you fight the virus, but it seems people are spreaders before they even have symptoms (which I believe is a sign of the body engaging it)
Aiming a vaccination program at spreaders rather than those most likely to suffer seems a risky move.
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In an average year there are about 350,000 deaths in the UK. This year we've had 415,000 - 18% more deaths. The promises from the covid-skeptics were that covid "just killed off people a few months earlier". That hasn't borne out -- in the North West where we suffered from a second wave in October, which led to 40% increase on expected deaths each week for the entire of November (people catching in October) and hospi…
Where are you getting these numbers? "There were 616,014 deaths registered in the UK in 2018, an increase of 1.5% from 607,172 in 2017." https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati...
Excess deaths from
https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/static-reports/mortality-surve...
So 18% up in the last 9 months. Lockdown 2 dropped that to 10%/week, but that was before the effect of the December spike and the large numbers going into hospital has been truely seen.
Israelis give shots to medical workers and oldest citizens first. This should drive down the death rate pretty fast. If this approach works, Covid-related deaths in Israel should visibly drop by the end of January.