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Why Is There a Bucatini Shortage in America?

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Re: Why Is There a Bucatini Shortage in America?

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Post by Scoundreller »

_huayra_ wrote: post #47
Scoundreller wrote: post #37

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Vaccines! But seriously, they do inspect a lot of drug manufacturing facilities, even overseas. As a Canadian, I trust their approvals more than Health Canada's. I suspect Health Canda just copies whatever the FDA does a few weeks later. Dunno why either haven't banned addictive substances (cigarettes) and let the non-addictive but fun ones get a free ride. But ya know.

Unfortunately oversight may not always be so great, especially for generics: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/12/7222165...

I never said it was good, but the FDA seems to be doing the most.

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Post by gruez »

conistonwater wrote: post #284
rvba wrote: post #264

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I speculate that this logo is mostly used for "cheap crap" where they stamp any random logo you want. Also if you sell the "cheap crap" to some country outside of EU, you can still slap the nice CE logo there. And since when shady Chinese companies care about copyrights anyway.

I think part of the puzzle is why they would cheat by stamping a logo that is almost right but not quite. Is it that their level of honesty such that they wouldn't cheat regulations but would cheat a trademark? Maybe they themselves can't tell which logo is the correct one so they just stamp anything?

>I think part of the puzzle is why they would cheat by stamping a logo that is almost right but not quite. Is it that their level of honesty such that they wouldn't cheat regulations but would cheat a trademark?

Maybe it's a lie that they tell themselves so they can sleep better at night. It's not unlike how "sovereign citizens" believe in various flawed legal arguments to justify how they don't have to pay taxes.

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Post by ncmncm »

bookofjoe wrote: post #178
ncmncm wrote: post #43

Bucatini I can frankly take or leave. But when gemelli disappeared for several months I was distraught. Nothing is better in mac'n'cheese. I make it in a cake pan, less than an inch deep, with sourdough cubes and grated cheese on top, toasted to a crisp. The mac really is just there to hold up the cheese toast. But that doesn't stop me from putting in chopped chili peppers (not too much, 2 oz is plenty!), nutmeg, and…

Chick-fil-A Mac'N'Cheese a solid stand-in if you don't have the energy...

Thanks, I have not once set foot in a Chick-fil-A. Now I am curious.

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Post by splonk »

neltnerb wrote: post #180
fomine3 wrote: post #57

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Regulation isn't made just by health/safety perspective, but includes cultural, social and others. For example, Katsuobushi is the core part of Japanese food but it seems that exporting to Europe is difficult due to EU regulation. Another example in Japan would be K-car. As a Japanese, I never want to give up Katuobushi for improving health. I suspect that maybe oppositely, European people also has food or culture th…

Wasabi is impossible to get in the USA, my understanding was that this was because of Japan's rules rather than those if the USA. We just have horseradish with green food coloring in the USA.

It's not impossible, it's just expensive to import and difficult to store. Higher end sushi places would usually have it. Now there are at least two farms in the US producing it that I know of, one in Washington state, and another in Half Moon Bay, near San Francisco, and there's even some retail distribution now in SF.

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Post by vetinari »

rvba wrote: post #144
freeone3000 wrote: post #33

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There are various regulatory trade-offs between safety and cost of compliance. For instance: Cars sold as new in Canada require daytime running lights and yellow rear turn signals, due to extended periods of low visibility. While the running lights are a requirement in Sweden, they aren't in Poland or many other European countries. There's been some effort on standardizing between US and Canada since 2016, which woul…

Daytime lights are obligatory in Poland since it joined EU - so for like 15 years. The standard is the same for whole EU. If your car does not have those weak daytime lights (small lamps that basically dont do anything) then you are supposed to use the low/dipped beam. And most drivers use low beam all the time.

Using DRL during the day (i.e. normal visibility) is not mandatory in Austria. You may use them, or dipped beam, if you choose so.

There is one more difference between DRL in EU and NA: in EU, the parking lights must be off, while DRL is on. This is a problem with some older cars, which technically do have DRL, but keep the parking lights on (i.e. pre-F series BMW; the angel eyes are parking light). This is non compliant in EU.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #181
koheripbal wrote: post #163

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Your sugar example is not a good example because the US setup a mandate to be totally food supply independent after the Dust Bowl/famine in the early part of the last century. So foreign sugar sources, like any major staple, are heavily tariffed.

That’s not the history I’m familiar with regarding sugar tariffs. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-18/u-s-su... It’s very amusing to me that the US subsidized domestic sugar production, and then also pays for diabetes and it’s related healthcare costs. I’m confident that the future will look back and determine sugar to be one of the most costly habits of people.

> It’s very amusing to me that the US subsidized domestic sugar production, and then also pays for diabetes and it’s related healthcare costs.

Subsidizing domestic sugar production by spiking the price of sugar... means less sugar consumption. What's the joke?

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Post by veilrap »

sunpar wrote: post #232
kqvamxurcagg wrote: post #158

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It's small relative to other industries but its still a multi-billion dollar industry. Each of the largest companies will have PR agencies, personal contacts within the FDA, revolving door of staff between the FDA and the corporates, positions on standards committees, board members who have spent a life time in food safety governance. I'm sure many of these manufacturers are the largest employers in some congressiona…

This food regulation is not really based on health or nutrients or anything like that, nor is it pointless. It stems from an effort to define what can be marketed as a pasta noodle vs. other similar yet different products, like ramen noodles. There are similar regulations that define, for example, what is a whiskey and what isn't. Sure X amount of Y substance vs. X-epsilon amount will always look ridiculous on the fa…

I don't find this argument particularly convincing.

Am I drinking "sparkling wine" or "champagne"? Honestly, why should I care, I just care about how much I like the product and how much it costs.

I'm for regulation around areas about product safety, but this seems to not be what's going on here.

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Post by maxerickson »

Exmoor wrote: post #244
snarfy wrote: post #236

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The sugar tax is pretty simple. Corn grows in north america and sugar cane doesn't.

It'd be more accurate to say that corn grows in many more places in North America than sugar cane. I was surprised to learn that vastly more pounds of sugar from cane is produced in the US (~32 million pounds a year) than corn syrup (~8 million pounds a year). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_industry_of_the_United_S... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup#Unite...

The values listed there are the sugar cane harvest, not the sugar produced from it.

Per https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/outlooks/100085/sss-m-388.p... the recovery rate varies from 9 to 14 percent.

Cane sugar production runs about 4 million short tons, which is about 8 billion pounds. Beets add a similar, somewhat larger amount.

HFCS production is also on a similar scale, billions of pounds a year. But then 80% of corn goes to animal feed and ethanol production, so HFCS isn't the major end use.

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Post by tracker1 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #243
buran77 wrote: post #76

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> Meanwhile, Canada lets you import There are far more important reasons to do this than protectionism and it's disingenuous to skip them and jump straight to protectionism. Banning old cars would harm the parts of the population which can't afford brand new cars (that's a huge chunk) and guarantees that every time regulation demands something new everyone has to buy a new car. On the other hand not mandating new saf…

From what I’ve seen, the >17yr old imports aren’t to save money, but your chance to finally drive something exotic that wasn’t (or wouldn’t) be approved for sale here. E.g. RHD, Kei cars, Nissan Skylines

As someone passively enthusiast about cars, I think that's in general a good thing. People buying classic/old cars generally know it's not going to have current safety regulations, but may still appreciate it and take the risks.

I'm font on retro/rust-mods where they're updated with modern engines, controls, etc... others prefer completely stock/original as possible. In the end, it's not so different from being able to maintain a listed building in England or other heritage or historical works, other than it rolls down the roads.

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Post by bookofjoe »

ncmncm wrote: post #293
bookofjoe wrote: post #178

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Chick-fil-A Mac'N'Cheese a solid stand-in if you don't have the energy...

Thanks, I have not once set foot in a Chick-fil-A. Now I am curious.

Bonus: No need to set foot: most have drive-thru windows
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