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Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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And yet Tim Cook has the cheek to get 'woke'. Apple could easily afford to build everything in a country that isn't an awful dictatorship running concentration camps and still earn obscene profits. And yet they still somehow maintain this aura of being the 'good guys'...

Apple's supply chain is more than 1,000 companies. Do you really think Apple has the expertise and personnel to replicate what 1,000 companies have spent decades mastering? Not likely. No company on earth has ever been able to make a smartphone entirely themselves, and no company ever will, although i'd like to be proven wrong.

> Apple's supply chain is more than 1,000 companies. Do you really think Apple has the expertise and personnel to replicate what 1,000 companies have spent decades mastering? Not likely.

As one of the richest corporations on the planet which always smugly tells everyone how nice they are and how much they respect people?

Yes, fuck yes. They're not a mom and pop shop. They're a corporation that finds millions to lobby governments against making your electronics repairable. They can redirect those to paying the manufacturing workers directly.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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If you buy an iPhone, you're complicit in human slavery. Period. Don't even try to explain yourself out of it.

please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you

Maybe fairphone?

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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If you buy an iPhone, you're complicit in human slavery. Period. Don't even try to explain yourself out of it.

please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you

https://www.fairphone.com/

https://www.pine64.org/, to my knowledge.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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If you buy an iPhone, you're complicit in human slavery. Period. Don't even try to explain yourself out of it.

please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you

Why are you moving the goalposts? What does the history matter, the list of countries currently with millions of people in concentration camps is quite short.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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how anybody can purchase products that are created under these circumstances is beyond my comprehension.

this isn't theoretical. this isn't abstract. it's real life. people are being enslaved for these products to be made.

if you are against slavery and purchase an apple product, you are a hypocrite.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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What sources are you getting the organ transplants information from?

Odd to me that your question -- a genuine question -- would be downvoted.

Probably because it’s received quite a bit of attention. If you’ve been reading HN for a while, particularly articles about the recent injustices in China, you’ve likely already encountered such claims.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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And yet Tim Cook has the cheek to get 'woke'. Apple could easily afford to build everything in a country that isn't an awful dictatorship running concentration camps and still earn obscene profits. And yet they still somehow maintain this aura of being the 'good guys'...

If you buy an iPhone, you're complicit in human slavery. Period. Don't even try to explain yourself out of it.

How do you feel about the forced labor embodied in every single lithium ion battery you're using right now?

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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What is an influencer to do? Switch to Android, like poor people? Nobody who matters is going to boycott Apple. Apple will counter with a plausible narrative, "we didn't know, we cancelled contracts, ..." and everything will be fine again. Oh, and a new woke diversity ad to show how much they care about muslims. And everybody will share and clap and feel good.

Why the downvotes? Too close to the truth?

hdjtkrnrn isn't downvoted. By the way, it's against the rules to comment about downvotes.

Re: Apple’s longtime supplier accused of using forced labor in China

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And yet Tim Cook has the cheek to get 'woke'. Apple could easily afford to build everything in a country that isn't an awful dictatorship running concentration camps and still earn obscene profits. And yet they still somehow maintain this aura of being the 'good guys'...

Apple's supply chain is more than 1,000 companies. Do you really think Apple has the expertise and personnel to replicate what 1,000 companies have spent decades mastering? Not likely. No company on earth has ever been able to make a smartphone entirely themselves, and no company ever will, although i'd like to be proven wrong.

Interesting that large parts of that supply chain coincidentally operate in parts of the world which have extremely low wages and virtually no worker rights.

Having worked at a company that Apple bankrupted in order to bring their work in-house I respectfully disagree that they lack the will or ability to avoid complicity with a genocidal totalitarian state.

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