There have been orders-of-magnitude bigger issues ($31.65 Billion per the following article):
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/05/29/31-65-billion-cal...
Not those who expose, but those who cause, should be the ones fired.
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Just don't get arrested if you move to japan: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51129580 There was a piece on BBC radio 4 about this. Stuck in a cell and not allowed to lean on walls had to sit up right the whole time horrendous. Usa has its problems, it also has a constitution and the first amendment. Sadly here in the UK we do not.
At least there's universal healthcare in the middle of a global pandemic, unfortunately there's a push to remodel it after the U.S. private insurance model, but also a string opposition to that idea.
Where did you hear about a push to remodel to USA style health care? Not a chance, the NHS is a religion here. Which is also a problem, it can't be critised.
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That may have been the justification used to pass the system, but the result is still everything I've said and it's hard to believe that wasn't intended.
> but the result is still everything I've said No, the result is not “Republicans only have a shot if they don't compete with each other” (except to the extent it it is equally “Democrats only have a shot if they don't compete with each other”; it does disadvantage a party having support spread among many candidates vs concentrated on a smaller number, but there's nothing that makes that more true for one party that…
Your post agrees that both of those things do happen under the system, and yet your conclusion is that they don't. What kind of gymnastics is happening in your head?
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> You read the GP’s comment through the concept of a ‘core’ argument, which excludes some parts of what the GP said as simply examples. I think the parent reasonably doesn’t use that concept, and sees more than one argument being made. This discussion would have gone much smoother if you'd just gone with this argument rather than jumping straight to gaslighting.
I was responding to some plain old bulverism/gaslighting. It’s toxic, and I’d prefer that we don’t ‘smoothly’ gloss over that. If you hadn’t led with “I think you have missed the point, the GP’s argument wasn’t...”, it would have gone a lot smoother. The rest of what you said stood entirely without them. Can you say what value those phrases added other than to just undermine the person you were responding to as a way…
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Is that form of corruption a systemic problem here in the U.S.? I don’t think that it is. On the other hand, campaign contributions are common, legal, and involve large sums of money (especially to PACs). Systemic corruption of elected officials, resulting in de-regulation in order to benefit wealthy shareholders at the expense of the public, is more concerning to me than the possibility of low-level officials seekin…
Your logic only makes sense if you equate legal fundraising to back room, illegal corruption. To me, someone funding raising through a legal, transparent PAC might not be desirable, but it’s far less insidious than backroom dealings that pervert the rule of law.
I’m suspicious of any large transfer of wealth from an individual or organization to a politician, whether that’s through campaign donations or some other means.
It seems strange not to take the next logical step and conclude that there were some backroom dealings, especially if the politician later takes an action that is favorable to the donor.
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#266There have been orders-of-magnitude bigger issues ($31.65 Billion per the following article): https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/05/29/31-65-billion-cal... Not those who expose, but those who cause, should be the ones fired.
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Both of your replies have just been you saying that you're right, you haven't added any new information.
I literally said "I genuinely don't care". That is not the same as "I'm right", and I'm perplexed on how you got to that conclusion.
Why reply to something to say that you don't care about what they are saying?
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Can you explain to me what you think is happening in your Telegraph link? In particular, why you think this is "the NHS", and not some specific services in one part of the country, and also why these patients can't make use of private healthcare instead.
> Can you explain to me what you think is happening in your Telegraph link? Smokers and obese people are being prevented from receiving surgeries that are not deemed "essential" unless they stop smoking for 8 weeks or loose weight, respectively. > In particular, why you think this is "the NHS" and not some specific services in one part of the country Maybe this question isn't to be taken literally, but multiple artic…
When you say "The NHS" people think it's a national thing. The discussion in your article isn't a measure being talked about by the NHS, it's a thing being talked about one clinical commissioning group. There are about 135 CCGs in England. Vale of York CCG covers a population of about 360,000 people. (Out of a total of 60 million in the UK).
> If you cannot afford private insurance, you will only have NHS.
Yes, that's the point. If you can't afford private healthcare in the US you have much more limited options.
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At least there's universal healthcare in the middle of a global pandemic, unfortunately there's a push to remodel it after the U.S. private insurance model, but also a string opposition to that idea.
Where did you hear about a push to remodel to USA style health care? Not a chance, the NHS is a religion here. Which is also a problem, it can't be critised.
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“The need to turn differences in reading and opinion into a no holds barred psychological fight is genuinely toxic.“ I agree. That’s why I think it’s a bad idea to tell someone that something they are responding to isn’t present. Avoiding bulverism is a good step to avoid bringing things into the psychological realm. Knock it off! I get that you have a different understanding which is reasonable, but that can be expr…
> You read the GP’s comment through the concept of a ‘core’ argument, which excludes some parts of what the GP said as simply examples. I think the parent reasonably doesn’t use that concept, and sees more than one argument being made. This discussion would have gone much smoother if you'd just gone with this argument rather than jumping straight to gaslighting.
Please stay out of tit for tat spats no matter how badly someone else behaves. They're tedious, nasty, and not what this site is for. I know it's not easy, but it's important given the intention of the site.