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Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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Maybe if they’re flying first class? Otherwise that sounds like a nightmare that would require an insanely high paycheck.

If you're flying back and forth on that route that often, you're going to get upgraded quickly, I would imagine. I've done 6 flights a month domestic and have been upgraded to first class for free fairly often.

Depends on the rewards program I suppose. A US airline I’m familiar with does not upgrade frequent fliers on international flights.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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Is there a source regarding M-DISC being unable to hold up to their lifetime promise? A quick google search brings up amateur-ish blog posts, and even those co sign the medium.

Yes, French national metrology and testing laboratory LNE: https://www.lne.fr/sites/default/files/inline-files/syylex-g...

Thank you!

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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post #209

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Maybe if they’re flying first class? Otherwise that sounds like a nightmare that would require an insanely high paycheck.

>Otherwise that sounds like a nightmare that would require an insanely high paycheck. If the courier in question is 6'2" that might be the case, but I suspect if the person was much smaller and is a heavy sleeper, that it wouldn't be too bad.

As a person of 6’0” I found the flight from LAX to SYD, and return, miserable in coach. I slept a lot and watched some movies but any way you cut it that is a long time to be sitting in a very uncomfortable seat.

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Loveliest part was the part right before that: “Just let me geek out for a second” Absolutely IBM storage person, the more geeking out the better!

"Let me just surveillance out for a second" Guess where this will have the biggest impact in the next decade - the long term storage of billions of personally invading surveillance data points forever... Seriously, this tech will be abused. Against everyone. Facial recognition much? Zoom data? TikTok Data in a very compact physical form-factor? Utah and China will LOVE this!

Data storage is already so cheap thanks to HDDs that a poor African country can afford to spy on its population. This will hardly change anything.

If we want to do something about it we have to revolt in the streets.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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Asking "why" doesn't imply condemnation, does it? At HN we assume best intention, asking why is how we learn about other people and their reasoning. Of course it may be different than ours. But isn't that how we learn and are exposed to new ideas? IMHO we should encourage more respectful "why?" questions.

Reread the post, especially this sentence, and ask yourself if it was "respectful" > It's all just a lot of waste motion over some dream that someday we'll find value in sitting and looking at this old stuff again.

Yes, but when you read it in context, it's clear that the author is referring to themself:

>It's why I stopped taking pictures and videos of things. I never watched them again. It's all just a lot of waste motion over some dream that someday we'll find value in sitting and looking at this old stuff again.

The author uses "I" over and over again, explaining that they don't see the point, so asking about a different perspective seems genuine to me, or at least there's a plausible interpretation that it is genuine.

From HN guidelines:

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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That's good. But when will it ever move out of the enterprise market? What I really want is an affordable Tape storage for us common folks / home users to archive data long term. It's really a pain to keep transferring your old backups every 2-5 years to a new CD / DVD / portable HDD. There is a market for home users that really don't want to put their data on the "cloud". And this generation is really creating so mu…

So having worked in the tape library space, they don't really make sense for home users. They say that they have a 50 year lifespan, but everyone in the industry knows that's a blatant lie these days. The tape customers transfer everything over to the new generation every 2 to 3 years, so it's never tested and none of the customers really care. You also only get a couple hundred writes to a tape in it's lifetime. Tha…

What are you comparing tapes with? There's not any home archive tech in the first place.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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I'm more interested in the lifetime of the medium. Durable backup media for consumers is still a holy grail as I understand. M-DISC didn't hold up to their 1000 year lifetime promise. Archival-grade DVD's are also not good enough as I understand. Syylex went bankrupt. I want a consumer-grade backup medium that can provide at least a 100 years of lifetime. That said, I was able to recover 90% of the voice recordings m…

Brings back memories of a great remix contest in 2006 where the digital copies of analog tape tracks from Peter Gabriel’s “Shock the Monkey” were made available to remixers. To my surprise the pitch of the samples was a little lower (and varying ever so slightly over the duration of the song) than what you’d have expected with a440 tuning. It baffled me, since I expected some of the early digital synths used in the o…

A different problem happened to me when digitizing my dad's tapes. Dad bought the player in USA and brought it to Turkey and made the recordings there. When I digitized them in USA, everything sounded in higher pitch. It later turned out that the voltage difference in AC (60hz/50hz) caused the rotation speed to change proportionally, so I slowed it down to 5/6, and it was perfect afterwards.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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Hopefully this was cabin baggage and not something left unattended for minutes on the baggage belt

Unattended for 14+ hours you mean. A baggage handler on the departing side could be bribed to steal it and you would have half a day of unfettered access before the courier on the plane even knew it was missing. Of course you don’t check it if it’s that critical.

Or you encrypt it.

Re: Fujifilm Created a Magnetic Tape That Can Store 580 Terabytes

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When I was working in vfx we employed a guy who's sole job was to fly back and forth from LA to Melbourne with pelican cases full of hard drives. It was faster and more secure since we were working on air gapped networks.

That feels like a dream job for a temporary amount of time. And very effective too. I assume the VFX studio is in Melbourne?

Only if it was before American TSA which sounds like it was.

Now flying that much must suck cuz murcia. And you know real threats combined with gov agencies flailing about to pretend they are doing something about it. (Most of the stuff that worked had nothing to do with TSA adopted tech).

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