Earlier quoted context omitted.
Militias are not (all) hate groups.
You're "countering" an assertion that was not made.
You're racist.
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#332Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…
Note there was also an interesting event in WA on Dec 22 - local outlets covered: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/train-carrying-cru...
Two women were indicted for placing shunts across the same railroad's tracks in the same county earlier this month:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/press-release/file/1341141...
Note particularly the "INDIGENOUS LAND" emblem on page 5 of the indictment. Pretty obviously not the only two people who are part of that group.
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#333This is quite confusing to read cause the article doesn't mention it as terrorism. They seem to play it down as some sort of violence. I'm not sure if this would have been the case if there were any Muslim involved.
Terrorism is violence with political or ideological motives.
The motive in this situation is currently completely unknown. It very well may be terrorism, and that has nothing to do with the race or religion of the perpetrators. It has to do with their motive.
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
What we're seeing is a "stochastic insurgency" where loosely affiliated groups and individuals conceive, plan and execute infrastructure attacks and targeted assassinations. Relatively little operational coordination; but lots of online showing support and post-crime support. I hope all congressional representatives and local government officials are reviewing their safety plans.
Stochastic terrorism abound indeed - a couple days ago in WA there was a massive train derailment and fire at a Berkshire Hathaway railway previously targeted by arrested saboteurs. They were anarchists rallying under the cover of Antifa, one such decentralized stochastic phenomenon. https://komonews.com/news/local/oil-train-derailed-near-site...
Actually the saboteurs were part of the "INDIGENOUS LAND" group. See page 5 of the indictment:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/press-release/file/1341141...
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#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're "countering" an assertion that was not made.
You're racist.
Could you please knock it off? Your comments on this post are designed only to start flamewars. That sort of thing is frowned upon here. Since one of your comments is about what’s acceptable on HN, then either you know better and are doing it anyway, which is in poor taste, or you don’t know better and therefore shouldn’t be lecturing people about what’s acceptable here. Either by way of refresher or introduction, here are the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generally speaking the definitions of terrorism preclude state actors from being included (kind of a cop out, but they literally have carve-outs for the state). See the US legal definition of terrorism: premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents Title 22 Chapter 38 U.S. Code § 2656f Generally speaking, wartime actions by one state…
Isn’t the part that makes it less like terrorism that you ‘declare war’ on a different nation first? That’s why pearl harbor is seen more like terrorism, and the rest of the war more like war.
Pearl Harbor is not seen as terrorism. It's seen as a military attack on the United States, and an act of war.
United States hasn't declared war since 1942: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_Unit...
"The last time the United States formally declared war, using specific terminology, on any nation was in 1942, when war was declared against Axis-allied Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania, because President Franklin Roosevelt thought it was improper to engage in hostilities against a country without a formal declaration of war. Since then, every American president has used military force without a declaration of war."
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#337It’s as though someone watched an action movie and thought, what if we get rid of the need to cut the comms in the building itself, and if we chose a time and day when nobody would show up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLcHPsWK5xg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrA-1cG_wq4 This is a scenario that is in like pretty much every action heist movie ever. Except the movies have super-dramatic bad guys who blow their own co…
The human remains might be that of someone who threatened to blow the cover and ended up strapped to a chair just a few feet away from the explosives.
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, with nail polish.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
A guy working in this building told me they had showers to clean off radioactive fallout as the building itself could stand up to a bomb. Guy said “you’d be fucked either way” and laughed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Thomas_Street
It's probably not in this case but i wonder if this ATT was a special surveillance nexus... I think it's most likely the bomb wasn't meant to target anything, but was just some person's outlet Edit: i wasn't saying, "nuclear protection probably wasn't the case", i was saying, "the comment I'm about to make probably isn't the case but"... I know it's unclear
This is a relic of the cold war. Most of AT&T's telecom buildings were designed to be able to withstand just about everything except a direct nuclear strike.
While services were impacted, none of the actual infrastructure was really damaged and they likely just need to repair the lines running up to the building.
TLDR: AT&T's telecom infra is a relic of the cold war and is designed to withstand almost any type of attack.
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're racist.
Could you please knock it off? Your comments on this post are designed only to start flamewars. That sort of thing is frowned upon here. Since one of your comments is about what’s acceptable on HN, then either you know better and are doing it anyway, which is in poor taste, or you don’t know better and therefore shouldn’t be lecturing people about what’s acceptable here. Either by way of refresher or introduction, he…
Racism is not acceptable on HN.
You have some kind of beef with the DOJ indictment I posted here?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25542215
I don't think the DOJ was trying to start a flamewar when they filed that brief.
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
> violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism. Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?
No, by definition the invasion of Iraq was a state on state attack, pursuant to geneva accords and conventional warfare roe's.
There are reasonable arguments that it was an illegal war (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War )
Even so, i dont think any invasion by a recognized state by uniformed armed forces can really reasonably be called terrorism. Usually terrorism is a term reserved for non state actors or state actors which use non uniformed people .