ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

Post by PIKAL » Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:11 AM UTC

Guthur wrote: post #140

PIKAL wrote: post #90

I am overcome with curiosity about who did this and why. The fact that nobody has claimed responsibility makes no sense. If this were a politically motivated attack, domestic or otherwise, it would almost defeat the point to have the name of your cause omitted from those initial headlines. And sparing the lives of the bystanders also doesn’t make sense for a political attack. I heard the NRA gave warnings but the rea…

There are many strategies that don't necessarily involve large human collateral damage but are still politically motivated. The Provisonsal IRA in N. Ireland during the Troubles was often times either targeting security forces, collaborators or commerical activity. Ostensibly the goal was to make the UKs continued involvement in N. Ireland untenable from an economic and political stand point. The IRA was quite aware…

Post by 6nf » Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:15 AM UTC

vageli wrote: post #120

whimsicalism wrote: post #105

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> violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism. Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?

> Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party? Yes, pretty clearly. Just because you might agree doesn't diminish it. After all, a terrorist is just a freedom fighter depending on the observer. edit: Instead of downvotes because you disagree, why not point out the error in my thinking?

Post by 6nf » Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:18 AM UTC

fwip wrote: post #112

vkou wrote: post #102

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Your definition is not quite accurate. Some forms of violence performed to promote an ideology are called war. In fact, war is by far the most common, and the most destructive form of 'violence used to promote an ideology'.

Perhaps war is a form of terrorism.

Post by giantrobot » Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:22 AM UTC

iJohnDoe wrote: post #176

elmo2you wrote: post #83

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While I'm only speculating, it could be quite possible that whoever may have wished to damage or destroy the AT&T building, seriously underestimated what these kind of buildings can take (essentially being disguised bunkers). This certainly wasn't a small explosion, from the looks of it. But taking out a bunker .. unless you have access to weapons specially build for that purpose, good luck. That AT&T still went down…

Calling it a bunker might be overstating it. Maybe some are like bunkers or some have been reinforced. It’s hard to say. Sometimes these central offices are put in really old buildings. Sometimes they are even put in regular homes in a neighborhood. It’s simply based on where they need the connections/circuits and have access to electricity, etc.

Post by edoceo » Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:39 AM UTC

Throwaway1771 wrote: post #248

cookiengineer wrote: post #246

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I'm not sure if it's only anti government militia. Another possibility could be a heist/digital raid and that this bombing was there to prevent offsite backups of a secure data facility. Nonetheless this seems too coordinated and well executed to be some random hate group, so I agree with you there. Especially with the evacuation messages. Anybody know if e.g. the Nexus group or similar SSAE data centers had some iss…

Militias are not (all) hate groups.