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Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I think it's mainly because of the kerfuffle about certificate revocation checks? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/mac-certificate-chec...

Well doesn’t that make it bullshit then? I don’t see anything about the certificate kerfuffle that in any way justifies the statement.

Yes. Call me an Apple fanboy but criticisms that this was somehow nefarious data collection are baseless paranoia.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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who is this a quote of? seems like common knowledge here.

Often attributed to Keynes, though it looks like it was likely Gary Shilling: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/08/09/remain-solvent/

Thanks for the good refs!

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Anyone who can successfully predict downfall of large publicly traded companies can work for a hedge fund and make tens of millions of dollars a year. Anyone who cannot predict such events can write articles for a magazine claiming otherwise. At least it helps sell their speaking and consulting engagements.

There are limits to what you can do with superior but imperfect knowledge though. E.g. everyone knows Tesla stock is overvalued - even Elon tweets about it. And yet it's not really feasible to profit off this knowledge.

If you only predict that the stock is overvalued, it may indeed be difficult to exploit that information.

However, in this case, the author predicted the downfall of a huge company. If its business starts failing by any reasonable metric, its stock will fall very fast and very far.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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What does a meme that are jokes have to do with anything?

That Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t care about you one bit, and the matter how much you want to defend him, it won’t change anything.

It’s interesting to single out Zuckerberg. As if he’s so much worse than many, most of the other tech billionaires.

Who defended him? HN is passionately, if not extremely anti FB and anti Zuckerberg.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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The idea of doing a public campaign over this is so myopic that I cannot fathom the thinking about it. Who’s going to rally for Facebook? Did they really expected Apple to change this? The ad should scare investors much more than Apple’s move.

Apple recently has gotten lots of issues with antitrust lawsuits, especially in EU. Probably this kind of public campaign will likely draw more attentions from other iOS developers who have enough complaints but scared to fight against Apple. And even for Apple, FB (+Instagram and WhatsApp) is not something trivial to crush unlike Epic or Spotify. FB alone might be negotiable, but this can grow into significant headaches for Apple if it lets other Unicorn-level companies to form a coalition with FB or other tech giants.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Working for Facebook doesn't have quit the social capital it used to. Besides there's a such thing as enjoying my and believing the work you do is valuable. If ultimately you can only trave your effort back to ad clicks, that's not very enticing.

You live in a bubble. 95% of the American public would hear that their son “got a job at Facebook” and think he made it. 95% of companies hiring developers would see “worked at Facebook” and move that resume to the top of the pile.

No, I live in a mostly non-techie social group with both Democrats and Republicans: they all view facebook negatively primarily through the lens of their political party.

Your own self-satisfied bubble of congratulatory "we techies are special and have a special perspective" bubble is blinding you. Ask anyone with a moderate interest in politics how they feel about facebook and the answer is mostly going to be "not great".

Most don't care enough to quit facebook, but as per the point of my original comment, facebook isn't going to have any sort of easy time whipping up public support against Apple for privacy issues they mostly don't care about one way or another.

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You live in a bubble. 95% of the American public would hear that their son “got a job at Facebook” and think he made it. 95% of companies hiring developers would see “worked at Facebook” and move that resume to the top of the pile.

Finally someone with some perspective. Is it just me or is it just baffling at the amount of hubris there is in this thread? Its like there are two worlds, this small group of people who have no perspective whatsoever and the rest of the country having to deal with reality.

The rest of the country also has little positive sentiment for Facebook. They don't go so far as not to use it, but their opinion of it is not good.

Maybe it's because I don't live in an SV or other techie bubble that I see this, that I give more credit to the average person. Because I'm not stuck I'm an echo chamber of "general public are naive and don't care". They do care, they are more aware of some of these issues than you think. Assuming the only people who care or think about these issues are techies is an extremely condescending & patronizing view towards the average person.

Perhaps it helps broaden my view that live in a densely populated but not very techie/tech-company area and I have a large social circle of non techies. It shows me that your so-called bubble where hn/sv/techies make sweeping generalizations about the average person is often based in stereotypical fiction instead of reality. My age 65+ parents and in-laws couldn't tell you the difference between tcp & udp, setup a WiFi router, or understand the difference between a spreadsheet and a database or know what Full Stack means. But they have opinions on Facebook, and they aren't good. My few dozen coworkers of all ages are the same.

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Hey if your work on OSS infrastructure, it's not really that bad.

This is the thing. I don't like facebook, and they do a lot of bad things. They also have some amount of good they do.

So does the US govt. Does that mean you will reject a grant from them for your cancer cure or solar panel research? Less evil USians will die from cancer as a result potentially, along with the rest of the world.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Live in a city with Facebook offices. Work for a similar company. Recruiters offer phone calls not jobs. You still have to grind to pass the interviews.

So the strategy is basically to get into the FAANG club once and then you are golden as long as you keep up your grinding?

Yep - 100% this. Once you get a household name on your resume you're golden if you can do a simple whiteboard interview.
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