Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does a meme that are jokes have to do with anything?
That Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t care about you one bit, and the matter how much you want to defend him, it won’t change anything.
Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
161–170 of 195 posts
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly does that mean, "Facebook does not do counteroffers"? So you name an amount and either take you or not?
To clarify, if you're employed at Facebook and get an offer from another company, Facebook won't attempt to counter that offer to keep you. The initial offer to get employed at Facebook is of course negotiable.
Probably for the better. People who have already gotten a competitive offer must be determined to leave.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotal, but I’ve seen several folks get offers from FB and other big tech, and I’ve seen FB throw much more money at people. They also have better perks. I think they know they need to use money to overcome their reputation.
Sure, but it's still not enough. FB recruiters are super aggressive and I have zero qualms unloading on them for their BS behavior, every. time. I've asked five (5!) times to be taken off their list and added to a blacklist for candidates and I still get emails, calls, and LinkedIn messages. The first two "buzz-off" messages were polite, but now I'm just downright rude and respond with my actual opinion on their empl…
How do you even end up in a situation where recruiters are banging down your door with such offers? I know developers who have reverse engineered applications, fixed unbelievable bugs deep an application stacks, written top tier code that make them the go to people in teams for all the tough problems and yet they barely get any call backs much less for companies like Facebook. They have to grind leetcode for 1 year just to get interviews at no name companies in the mid-west(despite willing to relocate anywhere). Its like there is this "in" group of developers and if you are "in" you can act like how you do and if you are not, then you are in starvation mode with all the other starving fish in the sea.
Likewise it just seems so selfish to talk like this during a pandemic situation where so many people (including people in tech) are out of a job.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Working for Facebook doesn't have quit the social capital it used to. Besides there's a such thing as enjoying my and believing the work you do is valuable. If ultimately you can only trave your effort back to ad clicks, that's not very enticing.
You live in a bubble. 95% of the American public would hear that their son “got a job at Facebook” and think he made it. 95% of companies hiring developers would see “worked at Facebook” and move that resume to the top of the pile.
Finally someone with some perspective. Is it just me or is it just baffling at the amount of hubris there is in this thread? Its like there are two worlds, this small group of people who have no perspective whatsoever and the rest of the country having to deal with reality.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#165The proliferation of spyware has become unbearable. You cannot anymore use any app or service - even the paid ones - without having to worry that any of your data is being collected. And no, reading through piles of TOS and privacy disclaimers is not gonna solve this. Users must gain control back and opt-in must be the default.
Full Open Source and Libre software will be a solution, as it has always been. Is there any other real solution, besides emotional rhetoric? I don't believe regulation will really help, they will just skirt the lines and have lots of oopses.
> Full Open Source and Libre Software will be a solution
I'm all in for FOSS but in the current state of the infrastructure that would just swap reading TOS to reading source. It just is not feasible for every single user. The alternative is crowd trust but that problem tends to be solved naturally by institutionalization, which brings other requirements such as organization and solving monetary problems.
What we need is a change in infrastructure. Why is it allowed that IP addresses are geolocated in the first place? Why do browsers share the name of your graphics adapter by default? Why is the user agent not abolished?
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#166The article states that people will pay subscription fees to cooking sites and sports blogs. Not gonna happen.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
A person would have to drink an awful lot of kool aid to think their work at Facebook is valuable to anyone but the Facebook shareholders.
Hey if your work on OSS infrastructure, it's not really that bad.
This is the thing. I don't like facebook, and they do a lot of bad things.
They also have some amount of good they do.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can’t hire people with good ideas anymore because as we know money isn’t a great motivator (and besides, there are more ethical companies within 10 miles paying as much or more than Facebook). They can’t hire good people anymore because their mission is naive and their reputation precedes them.
When their internal memo about "connecting people" was leaked to the public, some FB employees wanted to actively select for loyalty in their hiring process: > Leakers, please resign instead of sabotaging the company > How fucking terrible that some irresponsible jerk decided he or she had some god complex that jeopardizes our inner culture and something that makes Facebook great? > Although we all subconsciously loo…
>> This is so disappointing, wonder if there is a way to hire for integrity. We are probably focusing on the intelligence part and getting smart people here who lack a moral compass and loyalty.
Oh the irony.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#169Do you realize that Apple isn't that popular outside of US and Apple can't kill anything with its actions?
Must be why my foreign employees always want to visit the Apple store before returning to their home.
Because iPhones are cheaper in the US and can be resold for profit/gifted.
Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it’s very exciting to work on the best ways to spread misinformation, incite division and ruin democracy. Or maybe they’re pulled in by the charismatic CEO-bot?
The CIA still gets people excited to work for them so ruining democracy and spreading misinformation are certainty draws for the right people
You’re right. I would bet the CIA is at least a little less starry eyed about the “good” they do in the world, compared to Facebook engineers.