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Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by mminer237 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #6
echelon wrote: post #2

Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.

Slack/Zoom/Teams/Whatever Google is running now is mostly dictated by what the company uses for their email. Pretty much no-one uses any of those for personal stuff, Slack does have some open-source project stuff in there. FB Messenger seems to be highly siloed, I never use it and I know only one person who uses it as their main communication platform. Whatsapp has reached critical mass in many countries outside of t…

I assume you're not American. Here everyone uses SMS by default. Failing that, everyone uses FB Messenger. Discord is used for gaming. That's about all the breadth you'll get outside of work. I guess I know three people who use Hangouts sometimes. Marco Polo and Snapchat are moderately popular things, though a bit different. Still, I have never met a single person who has used Whatsapp, Signal, Matrix, or Telegram. I doubt more than a handful have ever heard of any of them.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by _flux »

ValentineC wrote: post #81
upofadown wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one will win. That's not how this works. Things will continue to be an ongoing example of XKCD-927 until the world as a whole cares enough to fix things. The train wreck that is instant messaging makes me realize how incredibly lucky we are to have email.

> The train wreck that is instant messaging makes me realize how incredibly lucky we are to have email. Isn't the opposite of xkcd 927 a monopoly? If we're talking about a federated standard, we had XMPP [1], but nobody who can create user-friendly apps seems to want to adopt it. [1] https://xmpp.org/

Email or the phone networks aren't global monopolies, are they? They even got text messages working globally—no idea about MMS though.

So maybe there's a way to make a globally non-island IM that works in the Internet as well; or maybe with islands that can work with each other if that's how it must be. Sadly I doubt this will not happen without regulation; it worked for the telephone network, though email happened without.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by SergeAx »

Telegram is amazing messaging app. It is so fast! When I travel by boat and my phone barely sees one notch of GSM service (not 3G, not even Edge) from the island on the horizon - Telegram is able to send and receive messages. Whatsapp and Slack can't even connect for hours after that.

Another amazing thing is when I type a message on my phone - I see it on my PC the moment I press Send button. There's no visible delay, a perfect Google search effect from 2000-s.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

#94

Post by odiroot »

smabie wrote: post #84
ajconway wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're thinking business, but this is more like Teamspeak (or Discord).

Telegram is also used for business. In fact, my firm uses it as the primary method of communication

One of my doctors in Berlin, Germany uses Telegram (web) in their practice to communicate between the front desk and the private office rooms.

I always wondered how legal it is.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by BoumTAC »

elliebike wrote: post #90
nikivi wrote: post #4

I found Durov's plans to monetize Telegram most interesting. https://t.me/durov/142 Team features (competing with Slack/Discord?), ad tools for telegram channels and premium stickers. Whilst keeping all the existing Telegram features.

I joined this, replied to the post, and now I'm being sent lots of creepy messages and dick pics from the men of the internet :/ Telegram has no option for "Only allow contacts to message me", it turns out. After lots of messages, they eventually offer to auto archive and mute people not on your contacts, but it's still fairly visible on the app. Perhaps Telegram should work on better abuse management before adding v…

It does. If you block people sending spam, they won't be able to contact new people. They will have to wait people to contact them to engage the conversation.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by eitland »

unicornporn wrote: post #60
adkadskhj wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish Telegram would embrace open source, security audits, etc. It's one of, if not the, best UX chat message apps with so many features it's sort of mindblowing. I'd love to use them. But.. i avoid it, because something doesn't smell right. Allowing me to pay would be yet another right direction for Telegram, but i just can't move past the audit (and to a lesser extent, FOSS)

> It's one of, if not the, best UX chat message apps with so many features it's sort of mindblowing. I'd go as far as saying it's by far the best. I have used the word unnerving to describe the fact it's so beyond the rest of the competition, yet free and without a viable business model. I use Signal with friends and Matrix with other nerds.

> yet free and without a viable business model.

This has been bothering me as well but seems to be solved now.

All current messaging features will be free but new team features etc will be paid IIRC and AFAIK.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by dotancohen »

elliebike wrote: post #90
nikivi wrote: post #4

I found Durov's plans to monetize Telegram most interesting. https://t.me/durov/142 Team features (competing with Slack/Discord?), ad tools for telegram channels and premium stickers. Whilst keeping all the existing Telegram features.

I joined this, replied to the post, and now I'm being sent lots of creepy messages and dick pics from the men of the internet :/ Telegram has no option for "Only allow contacts to message me", it turns out. After lots of messages, they eventually offer to auto archive and mute people not on your contacts, but it's still fairly visible on the app. Perhaps Telegram should work on better abuse management before adding v…

Go to `Settings -> Privacy and Security`. For each option (calls / groups / etc) change "Everybody" to "Contacts".

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

tenryuu wrote: post #54
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

here is a copy for those not using tgram -- As Telegram approaches 500 million active users, many of you are asking the question – who is going to pay to support this growth? After all, more users mean more expenses for traffic and servers. A project of our size needs at least a few hundred million dollars per year to keep going. For most of Telegram’s history, I paid for the expenses of the company from my personal…

You can read the whole thing without an account, it is a public channel and the entire message is displayed on the t.me link. It's a bit jarring on a desktop browser because it looks like the post is cut off, but it's just a really really weird overflow with scrolling

When I reached the page, I only saw a ,,view in telegram,, button.

Re: Telegram Voice Chats

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Post by phillc73 »

elliebike wrote: post #90
nikivi wrote: post #4

I found Durov's plans to monetize Telegram most interesting. https://t.me/durov/142 Team features (competing with Slack/Discord?), ad tools for telegram channels and premium stickers. Whilst keeping all the existing Telegram features.

I joined this, replied to the post, and now I'm being sent lots of creepy messages and dick pics from the men of the internet :/ Telegram has no option for "Only allow contacts to message me", it turns out. After lots of messages, they eventually offer to auto archive and mute people not on your contacts, but it's still fairly visible on the app. Perhaps Telegram should work on better abuse management before adding v…

In Settings / Privacy and Security / Blocked Users there's a "+ Block User" option. Clicking this brings up a list of all chats and people who have messaged your directly. Selecting a name blocks a user.

Maybe even easier is pressing and long holding the name of someone who has sent you a message. In the vertical dots menu is then an option to block the user.

I'm running v7.1.3 from F-Droid.

I do agree though that an option to block direct messages from those not in my Contacts, or at least some kind of review process to allow a specific message from someone not in Contacts, could be a nice addition.

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