Telegram Voice Chats
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Telegram Voice Chats
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#2Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win?
And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter?
With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable.
Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
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#3Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
Will win in terms of what?
A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience.
Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
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#4I found Durov's plans to monetize Telegram most interesting.
Team features (competing with Slack/Discord?), ad tools for telegram channels and premium stickers. Whilst keeping all the existing Telegram features.
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#5Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
The problem with Discord is that every single thing has their own server with 42 highly nuanced channels, intricate permissions and multiple utility bots.
Then you have like 15 active users, all typing on #general
Multiply this by 20 or so communities and it's an UX clusterfuck of epic proportions.
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#6Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
Slack/Zoom/Teams/Whatever Google is running now is mostly dictated by what the company uses for their email.
Pretty much no-one uses any of those for personal stuff, Slack does have some open-source project stuff in there.
FB Messenger seems to be highly siloed, I never use it and I know only one person who uses it as their main communication platform.
Whatsapp has reached critical mass in many countries outside of the US. People use it because everyone uses it - not because it's especially good in any way.
Signal, Matrix etc are for idealists, who have a future vision of what the platform will develop into in mind.
My personal favourite is Telegram. It has a good mix of bots, API, native clients and channel management tools.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
The problem with Discord is that every single thing has their own server with 42 highly nuanced channels, intricate permissions and multiple utility bots. Then you have like 15 active users, all typing on #general Multiply this by 20 or so communities and it's an UX clusterfuck of epic proportions.
Yeah. Even I felt the same. It feels incredibly spammy, admin, roles, plus cluttered interface.
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#8I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
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#9Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
Slack/Zoom/Teams/Whatever Google is running now is mostly dictated by what the company uses for their email. Pretty much no-one uses any of those for personal stuff, Slack does have some open-source project stuff in there. FB Messenger seems to be highly siloed, I never use it and I know only one person who uses it as their main communication platform. Whatsapp has reached critical mass in many countries outside of t…
I don't actually use it yet myself, but my hope is that Matrix will eventually be the end of having to care about which app someone else uses. That an incumbent or two will switch, and no new app would gain significant market share with a non-Matrix silo.
I may just be dreaming though. Perhaps better bridges are the best we can realistically hope for.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Will win in terms of what? A lot of things in Telegram are done right, but that does not mean it will win the audience. Discord is a very good solution too, but I doubt people want to use it on their smartphones as a messenger.
The problem with Discord is that every single thing has their own server with 42 highly nuanced channels, intricate permissions and multiple utility bots. Then you have like 15 active users, all typing on #general Multiply this by 20 or so communities and it's an UX clusterfuck of epic proportions.
When you look at what it was supposed to compete with (good old mumble and teamspeak). The UX and UI make a lot of sense. You where supposed to have a lot of channel since you where usually creating one per game / per team. I remember having channel lol-1, lol-2, cs-1, cs-2, etc, so that multiple team could play the same game at the same time without speaking over each other. Then you had a main channel where you where hanging out when not playing anything.
But discord became so popular, it stopped being used just has a "game voip" service and has a general messaging service. A lot of streamer/youtuber use discord to host their community. I even know some company who switched to it when the pandemic started. And the fact and the matter is that discord was never designed for this.