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Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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I've also investigated this quite deeply. As I'm sure most of us know, the main problems with 'webcams', either the built-in ones or USB ones that you perch on top of your monitor, are the lens size, and the CCD/CMOS image sensor size. Manufacturers spouting specs like '4k' are deliberately misleading the public if the sensor and/or the lens aren't also upgraded. The only cost-viable methods to get 'broadcast quality…

The cheap USB-HDMI is perfectly viable for using it as a webcam. Qualitywise you won't notice any difference through a highly compressed Zoom/Teams/Skype video. They can output 1080p30 or 720p60, which is again mostly irrelevant in the webcam situations.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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I finally ended buying a cheap (15€) hdmi-usb capture for my dslr and the quality is abysmal.

Sure canon released an usb support for it, but all the usb cameras I've tried end up using a lot of cpu. With the capture card 0 problems.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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I've also investigated this quite deeply. As I'm sure most of us know, the main problems with 'webcams', either the built-in ones or USB ones that you perch on top of your monitor, are the lens size, and the CCD/CMOS image sensor size. Manufacturers spouting specs like '4k' are deliberately misleading the public if the sensor and/or the lens aren't also upgraded. The only cost-viable methods to get 'broadcast quality…

I got the CamLink 4k, for use with a 4K camera (Sony AX33). Unfortunately, the HDMI out is only 1080P. So yeah while it works it doesn't feel like much of an upgrade over my aging Logitech C910.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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The reason you can’t buy a good webcam is the same reason you can’t buy a high quality monitor outside of LG’s unreliable apple collab. The lazy conglomerates who sell these peripherals often don’t actually produce the parts in them. They simply rebrand commodity cameras and IPS panels in a crap plastic housing and slap their logo on it. Then they give the product a hilariously user-hostile product name, like “PQS GR…

That seems a bit drastic but I agree with the sentiment and would also include laptops. Maybe I'm wrong since I didn't check all hardware but Apple still seem to be the only ones that have rigid quality controls, make sure parallel parts are parallel, mechanical parts stand a reasonable amount of movements. (At least as long they are not testing a new "innovation" like butterfly keyboards... ;)) That said, I buy stuff used if I cannot buy the high quality version. It falls apart anyway, this way there's no reason to be upset and it's better for the environment.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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If you are looking here to improve your webcam because you started to do remote work, don't. First try to improve lighting and audio. Any camera will look bad in bad lighting. It is always better to first improve your lighting before you invest in a new camera. Use high CRI lightbulbs and ensure even source color temperature in your room (ie. all lightbulbs should be emitting same color temperature). Audio is also ve…

Those are great tips. I'll add a free one: just put your desk in front of a window and use that natural light

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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The reason you can’t buy a good webcam is the same reason you can’t buy a high quality monitor outside of LG’s unreliable apple collab. The lazy conglomerates who sell these peripherals often don’t actually produce the parts in them. They simply rebrand commodity cameras and IPS panels in a crap plastic housing and slap their logo on it. Then they give the product a hilariously user-hostile product name, like “PQS GR…

Take a look at Eizo (pun intended).

I'd choose an Eizo over LG, definitely.

Re: Why can’t you buy a good webcam?

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This article sort of glosses over the actual cost of designing the hardware. You should be able to get 500 units made working through a factory. Though minimum qty for parts can be as high as 5000, usually factories can find most components in smaller qty for 2-5x the price, especially since they already have relationships with suppliers. At $25-$35 bill of materials for something retailing at $250-$300 you're only looking at maybe $15k capital costs for the electronics and maybe another $15k for the molds (less if you can use one of the cheaper processes). $30k is pretty cheap from a capital expense if you're just talking about testing a market. The bigger cost is going to be all the engineering that goes into a product like this. It would be easy to spend $100k in billable hours to bring something as complicated as a webcam to market. You've got component selection and schematic work, board layout, industrial design work, firmware. If you're lucky you can slap together the equivalent of an arduino with an attached camera for initial prototypes but that'll only get you so far, and can still take weeks of development just to have a proof of concept. Hardware development is not for the faint of heart.

, and if you don't already have expertise in the webcam world, there's a good chance your product isn't going to actually be very good.

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