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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by m463 »

stinos wrote: post #107
ashleyn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been mostly Linux since 2011 and the few times I had to install Win10 for something I've been very displeased. We've fallen quite far in Windows, with ads everywhere, hundreds of services that do God-knows-what, fresh installs that break as soon as the updater runs for the first time. I'm really not impressed and I try to use it as little as possible. Just a bloated, unstable mess designed to sell Microsoft's va…

It's a bit hard to take this serious because of the hyperbole, but I'll bite on the services bit: how is that different? Supose you didn't use linux for a decade, then went to a linux box with a desktop environment and looked at the process list: how different is that from 'hundreds of services that do Go-knows-what'? I mean I use it daily and don't know what half of them do.

The difference is the surveillance and tracking and data collection nonsense, the forced upgrades and the general lack of respect.

And no matter "privacy is a human blah blah", apple collects a ton of data too - whether you agree or not.

(I will mention that ubuntu is not microsoft terrible, but it is starting down the path trying to force automatic upgrades and collecting info)

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by spydum »

egwor wrote: post #177
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I have the exact opposite experience. We're running an older version of Office (2016?) at work with Windows 7. Thse are supported by MS via the extended support contracts. It will be upgraded shortly. Basically I get blue screens, rendering issues, slowness, freezing, crashing, random glitches. I regularly lose emails. The changes to Outlook are abysmal too. When a meeting invite I've accepted is amended (e.g. a 'Sta…

Or you know, upgrade to windows 10, since windows 7 has been dead for about a year now.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by eznzt »

2ion wrote: post #199
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

Not even to mention the willfully broken font rendering on all peripherals that are not "retina enough" since a few versions ago. Using my work macbook with my trusty 16:10 monitors with 1920x1200 resolution in the home office is a literal eye sore since it's impossible to get a clear font image. The company had to send over a retina-enough screen... The worst font rendering Linux ever had is still better what macOS…

"apple-blessed displays" means "displays that have a pixel density that is appropriate to the year 2020", not necessarily screens that were manufactured by apple

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by herbstein »

throwii wrote: post #195
armada651 wrote: post #191

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On Windows you decide how crisp you want your display. There are plenty of hardware options with Retina-equivalent DPI.

I was probably too much into their marketing. Is it the same for Linux/Archlinux?

Tonsky, the creator of the popular 'Fira Code' monospace font, has a great blog post about monitor DPI and font rendering. A big section is on just how terrible font rendering and display scaling on a modern Mac really is.

https://tonsky.me/blog/monitors/

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by TeMPOraL »

iamtedd wrote: post #137
leonidasv wrote: post #47

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What drives me nuts is that those ads are also present in the "Pro" edition as well. I could understand MSFT pushing games into start menu for Home users, but doing so for Pro licences is outrageous.

Well, if the user has paid for Windows 10, whether as part of a new machine, or at retail, they shouldn't ever get advertisements in the OS. Even for Home editions. This constant encroachment of advertising into all aspects of life needs to stop. Please.

Advertising is a cancer on modern society.

And people really need to stop expecting that paid products won't show ads. From the POV of the provider, not showing ads would mean leaving money on the table (you likely won't quit paying over just an ad here or there). On top of that, as a paid customer, you self-identify as a real person with disposable income, making yourself much more valuable a target for advertisers.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by causality0 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #113
kabdib wrote: post #20

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I help run a service that uses hundreds of Windows boxes, and at any one time two or three of them always seem to have a borked windows update state. Recovery is utter fucking voodoo, and it's usually better to flatten a machine than attempt to repair things. A while back I installed a couple racks of shiny, new, absolutely identical servers (except for MAC addresses) with factory-imaged operating systems, and had tw…

My favourite Windows bug is the Start Menu search function. Install Windows Server 2016 or 2019 in any manner you choose: Blank VM with ISO image, new Azure VM from Microsoft template, whatever . Try using the Start Menu. Nothing will work. The search upon typing will not show all items. If you click on a search result, it won't launch. Type "SQL" to try and match "Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio" and be shock…

The wildest thing to me is that on out of the box Windows 10, from its release to now, you can't type a search into the Start menu and drag a program out of the results to create a shortcut. That feels like a "copy and paste doesn't work" level mistake to me.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by tremon »

apfsx wrote: post #17
game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

Enterprise version (LTSC) hasn't had a feature update since November of 2018. Only security updates.

LTSC isn't really meant as an enterprise desktop version. It's meant for industrial systems, the ones you don't expect to touch for years because they're controlling some vital factory process.

The expected version you'd be running on enterprise desktops is just the regular semi-annual release, delayed by a few months so the SMB sector can test the major bugs for you.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by AsyncAwait »

throwii wrote: post #195
armada651 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Windows you decide how crisp you want your display. There are plenty of hardware options with Retina-equivalent DPI.

I was probably too much into their marketing. Is it the same for Linux/Archlinux?

I run Arch on a Surface Pro 7, (ironic, I know), which has a HiDPI display and the experience is good for me under GNOME, even fractional scaling is supported.

One thing to keep in mind is that Windows/Mac/Linux do render fonts differently - they may not look identical to macOS out of the box, but there's a lot of configuration options (if you want to play with them) to get them to look the way you want.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by STRML »

2ion wrote: post #199
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

Not even to mention the willfully broken font rendering on all peripherals that are not "retina enough" since a few versions ago. Using my work macbook with my trusty 16:10 monitors with 1920x1200 resolution in the home office is a literal eye sore since it's impossible to get a clear font image. The company had to send over a retina-enough screen... The worst font rendering Linux ever had is still better what macOS…

If you're having color banding, you may need to force RGB on your external monitor [1]. I had to do this a few years ago, it massively improved the picture.

That said, I was in disbelief that this was a problem that both was common enough to be all over the Internet, and so involved to fix. Amazes me that OSX doesn't simply have an advanced setting for RGB/YPrPb, and instead requires that you boot into Recovery Mode (!!!) to fix it!

1. https://spin.atomicobject.com/2018/08/24/macbook-pro-externa...

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by roody15 »

Seriously disappointing. I have had to downgrade this on two machines last week as they both caused intermittent BSOD.

Machines back to running perfectly after downgrade.

Feel like these builds are just Beta builds and they are using a staggered release for consumers to be the testers

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