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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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post #65

Looking beyond the obvious problem here, just curious why the admin ran chkdsk /f for no reason, then did it on 6 more systems after observing it caused ntfs failure.

https://m.xkcd.com/242/ maybe. One hopes the reporter had backups (or was testing on disposable systems) before trying to reproduce a data-loss condition.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#82
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On work, I never had so much trouble, like with my HP ZBook and Win10. It had already once a complete reset, but still, I have a lot of trouble. Special since the new BIOS update about a month ago, it crashes once or twice a day again. In theorie Win10 looks nice. I tryed to upgrade one of my notebooks at home from Win7 to Win10. Privacy is one thing, but CandyCrush and things like that, was a totaly show stopper for…

HP's drivers are the worst I came across. We got HP Elitebook notebooks at work a few years ago and replaced them with Lenovo and Dell because the HPs kept crashing and slowing down over time. Their "utility" software like HP Sure Click slowed the whole system down and turned into nagware. There were at least 3 HP programs hogging the tray area and made discovery of my actually wanted tray icons hard. On top of that…

Yes, HP seems really like worse machines. I just set the max. CPU to 80% because of the costant fan noise. He is quiet now but also slower (of course). Also just the sound driver is around 500MB in RAM, serious? Lucky me I have 32GB. Since I work in a large company, I have nothing to say about the computer brand. At home I'm a happy Fujitsu user since many years.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#83
It's sad to say but I've had more hassle with Windows 10 than any previous (NT based anyway) release. 2000, XP, Vista, and 7 all served me well. 10 has done everything from deleted my files (thanks, October 2018 Update) to DESTROYING my Linux boot loader that was placed on a separate hard drive.. it has no business touching that!

I always looked at Linux as not being worth the hassle.. now it's not worth the hassle to use anything else.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#84
Yep, this happened to me. Destroyed my entire data on my SSD, and forced me to Linux. Now I've literally ditched Windows, save for MS Office, and am currently using Linux for code, and even recently games, since they seem to run faster in Ubuntu.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#85

I feel like Windows Update didn't used to be such a shitshow. Was I just not paying close enough attention a decade ago?

Windows 7 was peak desktop Windows. Server 2012 R2 was the peak on the server side. Everything after has been downhill.

Why'd they add "R2" to the end?

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Oh, heck yes. Can I count the ways? - The Start Menu shows "suggested apps" by default - On first install/boot, the Start Menu is preloaded with about 10 sponsored apps, and many of them install automatically even if you don't click them. - These sponsored apps have a tendency to reinstall themselves _even after you just uninstalled them_ if you haven't rebooted your computer at least once or twice after first boot u…

Thanks! I finally have the name for the wretched hive of scum and villainy that spews forth those horrendous ads. > Taboola is the world’s largest discovery platform. Through our exclusive partnerships with many of the world’s top publishers, we serve 360 billion content recommendations to over one billion people across the web each month. You have probably seen our feed serving recommendations on sites like Bild, Bl…

Outbrain is the other big source of chumbox adverts.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#88
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Fair enough, but to be clear - I am not saying that apple software and products are free from problems. Far from it - butterfly keyboard, for example. I am just saying Apple, for me, has the most reliable and consistent experience. And I have tried most options: - windows, linux, and macos for my personal and work machines - android, ios, and even windows phone (remember that?) So far, may experience has been the opp…

I don't really know if this is a head's up comparison -- Apple maintains very tight control over their hardware compared to Windows. So you're trading off, in that Microsoft has to manage an ecosystem with much greater complexity, but you have a blessed path for using Nvidia graphics cards.

This. MacOS fans will sing praises of Apple, while discounting that Apple messes up even though they have very few hardware types to service compared to Windows. And they still screw it up big time - I haven't moved to BigSur for this reason.

That being said, Windows 10 cannot be in the business of "ship and keep calm", due to the number of businesses and governments relying on Windows.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#89
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What drives me nuts is that those ads are also present in the "Pro" edition as well. I could understand MSFT pushing games into start menu for Home users, but doing so for Pro licences is outrageous.

If I have to use Windows I install server. It is missing all of this. But lack of WHQL drivers means it usually won't run on portables.

It tells you a lot when all of the few Microsoft employees I've met run the server edition of Windows (in this case 2016) on their development machines; these are people who basically have completely legal access to use any of Microsoft's OSs, and they don't pick Win10. The one who I asked about it said it was faster to boot, more responsive, and "less distracting" (probably an euphemism.)

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#90
post #59

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Lolz yeah right. It's the hardware's fault that windows install is non deterministic.

Well, flakey RAM causes loads of intermittent issues.

So does improper handling of write barriers.
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