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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by kyriakos »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19
game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

At some point we all need to understand there's no single perfect platform. Windows works for me so does Linux but both have their issues. I still useful work on both of them. I have very little experience with macos but from what I read and hear from friends it's not all perfect either. We are a point where OSs do so many things which means there's a huge surface of bugs can appear on. What's probably more important is, how much those bugs affect your work and how quickly the "vendor" is fixing them once discovered.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by Inviz »

josephg wrote: post #39
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

No idea if this will help, but I had some instability on my macbook last year after getting my screen replaced. I ran memtest86 on the machine (using a UEFI USB image) and after a few hours it reported memory errors. I took it back to the genius bar and explained the situation. After reproducing the problem using their own internal tool they replaced the motherboard for free of charge and I haven't had any problems s…

I have had exactly same issue, though with third party service. They replaced the screen, and when I came home it froze one time, and started beeping 3 times indicating ram problems. Because it was iMac, i had a chance to rearrange RAMs to boot up but it still was freezing up at times. I ran memcheck, found errors, and then figured out which ram planks was faulty.

The thing is that the issue started long before that, my Blender app would crash in tens of times a day, and same with Solidworks on windows.

So yeah, i recommend running memtest and replacing ram if necessary.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by noizejoy »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19
game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I’ve battled application, driver, operating system and hardware issues on every platform I’ve used from mainframes to smartphones.

That doesn’t mean that there haven’t been better or worse times with platforms I’ve used over the decades.

But it does mean that no platform is exempt from flaws or even dark times.

Individual mileages vary wildly depending on a combination of general quality of the product at any stretch of time, personal use patterns at that time, and blind, random luck.

And I’m still using 3 or 4 major platforms daily, depending how you count. None are worth total praise. And none totally suck either. As with many relationships “it’s complicated” :-)

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by kyriakos »

TedShiller wrote: post #41
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I have the opposite experience. Nothing but Blue Screens on Windows.

Blue screen is almost always a hardware issue, mostl likely ram or gpu related. Another possibility is a bad driver, but windows 10 can gracefully recover from them most of the times.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by kyriakos »

TedShiller wrote: post #61
reitzensteinm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to run memcheck on the machine. Windows is terrible in many ways, but having regular blue screens is not at all normal.

For me, OS stability, in decreasing order, has always been: 1. Linux 2. MacOS 10. Windows

What's the last version of Windows you used and the latest version of MacOS?

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by donmcronald »

dixie_land wrote: post #14
game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I believe Enterprise and LTS editions are on a different cadence. Probably came from the same MBA: let consumers be lab rats to for big enterprise customers

That's exactly what it is and it's becoming more common. Java went that way. Windows went that way. CentOS is going that way. Office 365 is even worse because the low paying users get more frequent updates than high paying users. I know because I tracked down a long file name issue for someone and was shocked they were paying for it and still getting to be a beta tester for the "real" customers (huge businesses).

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by Pq2Vvv8MtzTCFWS »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #35
runjake wrote: post #29

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Are people seeing ads in Windows 10? I often hear this, but I've never seen an ad (except MSFT's own ads getting to to try its new Edge browser.)

Oh, heck yes. Can I count the ways? - The Start Menu shows "suggested apps" by default - On first install/boot, the Start Menu is preloaded with about 10 sponsored apps, and many of them install automatically even if you don't click them. - These sponsored apps have a tendency to reinstall themselves _even after you just uninstalled them_ if you haven't rebooted your computer at least once or twice after first boot u…

I haven't had any of these issues, this is what I did when setting up my Win 10. (The watermark still shows up 90% of the time, but with dual monitors I never notice it.)

USB installed without a key Windows 10 Pro N, which comes with less bloatware - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

when installing do not sign up for an outlook.com account, create a local agent account

Go into settings and tweak as much privacy stuff as I saw - as found here https://fix10.isleaked.com/ & https://techlog360.com/stop-microsoft-spying-windows-10-priv...

downloaded o&o shutup10 to tweak more privacy settings, could have probably done this without the reg edits - https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

registry edits to -remove the activation watermark -https://www.techolac.com/computers/how-to-remove-activate-wi...

wallpaper can be changed by right clicking on an image and setting it as background wallpaper - cool wallpaper site https://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/rating/any/

downloaded Open Shell for further customization https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/

added show desktop to taskbar https://winaero.com/blog/add-the-show-desktop-button-next-to...

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by hermitdev »

alternatetwo wrote: post #64
reitzensteinm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to run memcheck on the machine. Windows is terrible in many ways, but having regular blue screens is not at all normal.

For me, a system that ran Win7 fine for years, has now bluescreended a far too high amount, and wiped notepad++ sessions etc more than once ... So it can't be the hardware.

Hardware can go bad and connections can loosen over time. I've had drives disappear only from the cable coming loose. Unplugging and plugging back in solved the issues. My current desktop is only report 48GB RAM when there's 64 installed. Undoubtedly at least one of the 8 DIMMs has become unseated or gone bad, but I've been too lazy to troubleshoot because I don't use that much currently.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by katbyte »

game_the0ry wrote: post #31
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #18

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>Oh well, I guess I will be using Macbooks for the rest of my life https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/macos-big-sur-update-br... Dropping quality is happening everywhere.

Yes, agreed. But at this point you want to buy the products that has decreased the least in terms of quality. In my experience, that usually means apple.

At least apple hardware quality seems to be making a swing back into he upwards direction. Finally considering replacing my 2015 mbp
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