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As I understand it, it's up to each app to decide what exactly it will back up. After a quick glance at the code, it seems to me that it backs up preferences, host keys, and public/private keys.
Okay, so that's a big red flag for me. Google can't have my private keys, so I can't use it. Thanks.
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HN should add a "report troll" link for comments like this.
I think Apple is starting to lose the mobile war where they used to be kings. I don't think that telling people with the loyalty-handicap that their misplaced corporate loyalty is not a globally shared opinion nor truth qualifies as trolling. But while I (obviously) disagree with your opinion, you are entitled to yours just as I am to mine. Have an upvote.
My bad. So 4 years ago it was the best, despite lacking 3G. 4 years later and next to nothing has changed. I honestly think it warrants being labeled "dated".
That "next to nothing" which changed includes GPS, compass, new kinds of motion sensing, retina display, significant CPU, RAM and Processor upgrdes, non-jailbroken availability of bluetooth keyboard, copy/paste and multitasking support, airplay, video recording, video out by cable, installable Apps instead of saved links to webapps, the entire App store, a higher res camera (twice), multiple cameras, MMS, facetime, significant improvement in javascript speed in Safari, in hardware accelerated graphics/GPU, the appearance of the game center, a slew of new Exchange Activesync features and policies for IT departments to manage iOS and on-device encryption which works instead of lying. And it's thinner and lighter and has better quality fit and finish.
The iTunes integration and requirement is for most people a bug, not a feature.
I think for most people it's a feature. The bug is "I have to plug my phone into a music player to activate it?" and "document transfer with iTunes as intermediary sucks". The feature is "I can buy music from iTunes store on my desktop, laptop or phone all using the same account all will get it when I sync. Same with video, which I can then play on AppleTV. My phone has iTunes remote control on it. My apple devices work with each other, no worrying about transcoding and copying and SSH keys and scripts and bodges."
Loyalty to Apple corporation is a mental handicap to everyone not bitten by Steve Jobs RDF. Why on earth would you be loyal to a corporation? I'm loyal to me and my needs, and I want the best. The iPhone isn't.
A corporation is a group of patterns and procedures executed by people. It's the human equivalent of software. The difference between a good corporation and a crummy one is like the difference between Registry Optimizer Spy Cleaner 2000 and Google Chrome.
Loyalty to a corporation means "Dealing with them was helpful and not painful, I predict low hassle in future".
Disloyalty to a corporation means "That was a load of hassle, no thanks to their other products".
Apple's website is nicer than Dells and Microsofts to find what I need. Apple's call centers were fantastic at the times I've called them, Microsofts were terrible and Dells were poor without an expensive contract. Aviva were terrible, Direct Line were great. Barclays were terrible.
It's not loyalty like patriotism where it can never be broken, but "I had good experiences in the past, that's why I will buy their devices in future" absolutely is a valid reason for choosing something over something else and it's not a mental handicap to do so.
Fashion? Are you serious?
Fashion is a valid reason why people choose to buy things, yes. That counters "Absolutely the only reason is if you care about fit and finish". I
The iPhone was a success based on it being the king of the smartphone game, and now it is slowly but surely lagging behind.
What is it lagging behind in that other current phones have and most non-geek users would want? (i.e. not "appears as a disk drive when cabled, which has been around for years and Apple chose not to implement it, but something new and cutting edge")
Unless Apple does something unheard of with the iPhone 5 (including a near-complete rewrite of iOS) they will still be lagging when it comes out. They will release a device with dated software on day one and then they have lost. They will no longer be the better or premium option, they'll just have a glossy look.
Were you watching the iPad 2 release? While everyone else was harping on about Android CPU cores on their tablets, Apple released an incredibly polished, world class piece of software engineering for a pittance of a price (Garage Band tablet edition). You can argue about how useful iPad Garage Band is for writing songs, but it's evidence that Apple isn't resting on laurels unable to innovate and pushing "dated software".
I realize I'm an iPhone owner gone Android-fanatic. Yes. I am biased. But right now, the iPhone objectively has very little appeal unless you are burdened with the loyalty-handicap.
iPhone has incredible appeal. All the stuff it could do yesterday, it can still do today. Unless you specifically want some of the things a competitor phone can do that iPhones can't, it's still a fine choice - and in terms of all the things smartphones collectively do, "what other phones do extra" is a tiny subset.
(Sorry, essay time!)
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As a coder, ethical behavior of the company behind the platform I use is very important to me.
Where's your proof that this behavior was unethical? I know nonprofits and educational institutions that still require IE6 today due to various reasons, and some on XP because they haven't okayed an upgrade cycle even if they're not using it. No offense intended, but your claims are difficult to take seriously. This sounds significantly more like "I don't like that they use Microsoft" than anything to do with what ki…
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Okay, so that's a big red flag for me. Google can't have my private keys, so I can't use it. Thanks.
Of course, you could download the source, comment out the lines that do that, and use the app. Or just don't enable the 'backup to Google' option.
I want backup to Google, for everything apart from that.
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They released all their phones to AT&T and Verizon shortly after the Sprint exclusive. The Pre 2, vastly improved over the Pre, was formerly available only as a GSM unlocked device, and now on Verizon. The Veer is an AT&T exclusive. Sprint distanced itself from webOS a long time ago.
By "shortly after" you mean 1 year after, I take it? Which also makes that available just under a year on AT&T today as well. So it hasn't really been that long and now we are hearing about a new OS and new hardware. Not sure I know anyone that would pay $150 for an outdated phone.
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Where's your proof that this behavior was unethical? I know nonprofits and educational institutions that still require IE6 today due to various reasons, and some on XP because they haven't okayed an upgrade cycle even if they're not using it. No offense intended, but your claims are difficult to take seriously. This sounds significantly more like "I don't like that they use Microsoft" than anything to do with what ki…
Eropple, selling thousands of frozen computers with IE6 sounds ok for you? it's clear that there is nothing to talk about.
I would respectfully suggest that you look and see if you're upset because they've got IE6 on them or because they've got Microsoft software on them. Your phrasing and behavior suggests the latter.
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Eropple, selling thousands of frozen computers with IE6 sounds ok for you? it's clear that there is nothing to talk about.
There's nothing "frozen" about a computer that has IE6. I would respectfully suggest that you look and see if you're upset because they've got IE6 on them or because they've got Microsoft software on them. Your phrasing and behavior suggests the latter.
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I didn't know webOS could do that. Maybe webOS could replace my Maemo N900. I have a Debian chroot on my N900 (with OpenOffice, GIMP & Apache) but don't use it that much. Other Linuxy things that I use my N900 for that I'd like to know if webOS could do: - vnc server - all the usual ssh port tunnelling / forwarding stuff - bash - cron - git - curl / wget / nmap - software repositories (Maemo uses apt) - python / ruby…
Yes, you can do a lot of those things, but over homebrew. You can install ipkg-opt, which will give you access to the nslu2-linux optware packages. It's no apt, but you can still use it to install packages. From the optware packages, you can install python/ruby/php, install a vnc server (although I think there are some homebrew apps for that), install git, cron, and a lot of the standard programs you would expect in…
[1] http://www.99bits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/meego-archi...
[2] http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/webos-architecture-dev....
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There's nothing "frozen" about a computer that has IE6. I would respectfully suggest that you look and see if you're upset because they've got IE6 on them or because they've got Microsoft software on them. Your phrasing and behavior suggests the latter.
It seems you've been commenting without trying to understand what "frozen" means. I'm not surprised, go on
You are doing little to change the impression of "upset Linux fanboy" that you created in your first post and have strengthened since.
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It seems you've been commenting without trying to understand what "frozen" means. I'm not surprised, go on
If you are using words in a non-standard way, it behooves you to actually clarify and explain what you mean. You are doing little to change the impression of "upset Linux fanboy" that you created in your first post and have strengthened since.
- freedom - freedom - freedom - wtf public license - good software - user friendly business models
You're right, I'm an upset linux fanboy. I'm upset about the time we've lost because of recent internet explorer versions and the companies supporting junk software instead of the modern ones.