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Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by Argorak »

p1itopre wrote: post #57
Argorak wrote: post #26

Why Geeks should hate HP WebOS: Only one recent device (at the moment) and it is carrier exclusive in most countries (for me, in germany). I like the new devices and the operating system, but sadly, I also have a good contract with a different carrier. So: sorry HP, but i'll pass. I never bought a locked phone and I will not start because of your hypergeeky operating system.

You have been able to buy the unlocked Pre2 for quite some time: http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB32... There are lots of reasons to avoid webos; but this is not one.

I said recent device. I am not interested in buying last years model if all they push at the moment is the new line of products. How should I develop applications for their new and shiny line, if I cannot even get a fully working device on my contract?

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by barkerja »

irons wrote: post #55
noonespecial wrote: post #38

I love it simply because its the best SSH experience of all of the smartphones. One click gets me the phones real terminal and then "ssh -l me whereever.com". No bogus setup screens, with each server requiring a 5 minute fill in the blank session to connect to, no menus full of special keys to transmit (most covered with the orange key), just pure .ssh/id_dsa public key in my home-dir win . Its 10x easier than the be…

Is Prompt already the best thing on your iPad? If not, I'd be curious to know how it stacks up. (Prompt costs US$5 for an iPad/iPhone version. Nobody get the vapors.)

I've used Prompt on both the iPad and iPhone and have zero complaints. It's an excellent app and worth every penny.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by barkerja »

jackson71 wrote: post #99
jallmann wrote: post #62

I love WebOS because it has the only sane development model of all the smartphone platforms on the market. edit: I actually think wp7/silverlight might fare well too from a dev perspective, but i haven't spent time with it yet.

WP7's suffering from its own developer adoption woes. The only problem with webOS' adoption, from my perspective as a webOS dev, has been marketing and hardware. Developing for webOS has been fun from Day One and continues to be nearly two years later. The hardware part they look to have taken care of based on the Pre 3, Veer, and Touchpad I got to see and mess with back at their Dev Reception in February, and I'm pr…

While the entry point is low, there are still many API's lacking which has prevented a lot of applications from being on webOS (for example, there was no mic API for the longest time).

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by dave1010uk »

rsanchez1 wrote: post #81
daniel_solano wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Maemo? With Maemo, I can just launch an xterm and ssh to my heart's content. For that matter, I can also set up an SSH server and ssh into the device. I'm guessing Meego probably has the same support. In my experience, it's the closest experience to have a full Linux box that I can stick in my pocket.

Yeah, I can do all of that with my Pre 2 as well, and I had been doing it on my Pre for a while. Heck, with xterm on my Pre 2, I can run a Debian or Ubuntu ARM rootfs and actually have a full Linux experience in my pocket.

I didn't know webOS could do that. Maybe webOS could replace my Maemo N900. I have a Debian chroot on my N900 (with OpenOffice, GIMP & Apache) but don't use it that much.

Other Linuxy things that I use my N900 for that I'd like to know if webOS could do: - vnc server - all the usual ssh port tunnelling / forwarding stuff - bash - cron - git - curl / wget / nmap - software repositories (Maemo uses apt) - python / ruby / php

(Not trying to say mine's better than yours, I'd just like to know if webOS might be for me as my N900 is getting old)

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by Apocryphon »

mgkimsal wrote: post #73
mdiep wrote: post #44

If HP made an iPod Touch competitor, I would buy one in a heartbeat. I don't want to buy another phone, but I'd love to have a WebOS device to play with.

Agreed - been saying for years that Palm screwed themselves over by trying to get in to the phone market with the Pre. They should have gone after reinventing the "PDA" market which they'd invented years earlier. Something like ipod touch with webOS 2 years ago would have, imo, allowed Palm to be a much different beast today.

Agreed agreed! I don't care for a smartphone, and don't need a tablet- bring back the PDA! Palm needs to find its roots, not try to compete with Apple and Google/HTC head-on. If HP was smart, they'd step out of the fray and let Microsoft/Nokia/RIM try to deal with it.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by msh »

irons wrote: post #55
noonespecial wrote: post #38

I love it simply because its the best SSH experience of all of the smartphones. One click gets me the phones real terminal and then "ssh -l me whereever.com". No bogus setup screens, with each server requiring a 5 minute fill in the blank session to connect to, no menus full of special keys to transmit (most covered with the orange key), just pure .ssh/id_dsa public key in my home-dir win . Its 10x easier than the be…

Is Prompt already the best thing on your iPad? If not, I'd be curious to know how it stacks up. (Prompt costs US$5 for an iPad/iPhone version. Nobody get the vapors.)

I use prompt allmost everyday. Its THE best ssh app I have tried on a smartphone. I dont know webos/maemo, but in my time on palmos, symbian, windows mobile, android and ios I have not met a ssh app this good.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by nodata »

daniel_solano wrote: post #78
antihero wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Connectbot is pretty excellent for Android, I'd have to add.

I agree, and it's open source too. In fact I am currently working on getting it to work well with the full keyboard on my new Android tablet/netbook.

Can you exclude your private ssh key from being synced with google?
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