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From a Jupiter-like gas giant type exoplanet, which generate radio emissions through entirely natural processes just like the gas giants in our own solar system. The title is a tad more spectacular than the actual discovery.
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I can't see a good reason to assume an alien civilization would be industrial to begin with, whatever discovery path might lead one there. And I don't even mean they could be underwater creatures etc., which is also a possibility. Imagine Earth as we know it, inhabited by humans as we know them, but no fossil fuels (due to a different geological history), very few metal ores (making every metal as scarce as, say, pla…
That seems like an interesting plot for a story. Stonepunk? It seems a sufficiently advanced society could have Antikythera type computing mechanisms ground from stone. And extravagant "wood"-working artifacts shaped by sharp stone tools (obsidian single point turning tools for your lathe?). So you could have advanced looms for textiles, etc.. And then without metals you don't have electrical conduction, but what cou…
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That still suggests a _machine race_ could have sent it.
We could define intelligent life as being any of a sapient species, regardless of physical composition. That's helps do away with only carbon-based lifeforms.
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We could define intelligent life as being any of a sapient species, regardless of physical composition. That's helps do away with only carbon-based lifeforms.
What would be the definition of sapience for a machine civilization?
It's not aliens. It's never aliens.
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The title is in an odd spot where, on the face, it is completely anodyne, and not at all misleading or “clickbait.” Yet even sensible readers (like me!) see “radio” and “exoplanet” in the same sentence and think “ALIENS!” Very awkward spot for the science PR people writing this. It’s almost like it needs extra words to prevent people from adding “Possible (But Definitely Non-Alien) Radio Emission From Exoplanet (Whic…
> anodyne It's pretty rare for me to run into a (non-technical, niche) word I'm not at least somewhat familiar with, thanks! anodyne (adjective): not likely to provoke dissent or offense; inoffensive, often deliberately so.
Radio JOVE is a STEM project that explores the radio emission of our own Jupiter, which is very similar to what has been detected in Tau Boötes. It's a very fun backyard amateur radioastronomy project that's great for kids. https://radiojove.gsfc.nasa.gov/
Makes me wonder if these sounds were ever remixed into music? Would certainly be an interesting concept along the lines of the German Space Night TV program.
[0] https://youtu.be/slE2i0O0pDY
[1] https://vimeo.com/173638603
[2] https://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/features/halloween_soun...
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What would be the definition of sapience for a machine civilization?
Same as for humans. Or a hive mind, or some other type.
Common dictionaries, such as Oxford, state:
Sapient 1. Wise, or attempting to appear wise. 2. Relating to the human species.
Where
1. wise is defined: Having or showing experience, knowledge, and good judgement. Hard to see how that would apply to a hypothetical hive or machine drone civilization with only a single ‘wise’ controller.
2. Clearly not applicable.
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Same as for humans. Or a hive mind, or some other type.
Which is? Common dictionaries, such as Oxford, state: Sapient 1. Wise, or attempting to appear wise. 2. Relating to the human species. Where 1. wise is defined: Having or showing experience, knowledge, and good judgement. Hard to see how that would apply to a hypothetical hive or machine drone civilization with only a single ‘wise’ controller. 2. Clearly not applicable.
Radio JOVE is a STEM project that explores the radio emission of our own Jupiter, which is very similar to what has been detected in Tau Boötes. It's a very fun backyard amateur radioastronomy project that's great for kids. https://radiojove.gsfc.nasa.gov/
Wow, that sent me down a short rabbit-hole of listening to Jupiter [0] [1] and other space radio emissions [2]. Makes me wonder if these sounds were ever remixed into music? Would certainly be an interesting concept along the lines of the German Space Night TV program. [0] https://youtu.be/slE2i0O0pDY [1] https://vimeo.com/173638603 [2] https://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/features/halloween_soun...
[1] https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Space-Project/release/56... [2] https://youtu.be/GksfQN1_LsM