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Re: Gmail having issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t imagine what part of Google’s history would lead someone to believe there was any third party system in their production stack anywhere.

Didn't they use GNU/Linux form day one on?

Closed-source like Oracle I meant. They've been big boosters of all kinds of open-source stuff like linux, llvm, mysql, ...

Re: Gmail having issues

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As quite a few googlers appear to read and write on HN, I'd really welcome an insider info on what's going on the last few days. Sure there will be some internal turmoil going on right now, but isn't there some non-confidential info to share? Can't imagine this will hurt the image of google neither in the short nor long run, quite the opposite.

I don’t work at Google, I’m at a different big tech that’s in the news frequently. Sharing inside info on an ongoing incident is a great way to get fired. Big tech companies are way different than startups where everyone can do a bit of anything. There are people whose job it is to handle that communication. You make their job a lot harder if you disclose information. The company is so big that as an engineer you may…

What you're saying makes sense but I don't think it really applies to anything the OP said. The "non-confidential" qualifier indicates to me that they only want people to share what they can responsibly.

Re: Gmail having issues

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Remember, free and open source software is more reliable: ( https://www.gnu.org/software/reliability.en.html ) "One reason is that free software gets the whole community involved in working together to fix problems. Users not only report bugs, they even fix bugs and send in fixes. Users work together, conversing by email, to get to the bottom of a problem and make the software work trouble-free." And Service as a Sof…

> However, we are now offered another tempting way to cede control over our computing: Service as a Software Substitute (SaaSS).

Don't agree with this bit. You are ceding control of your data for sure, but this isn't quite the same as running a proprietary piece of software on your machine which you have no idea what it's doing.

Ceding control of data is also worrisome I agree, but giving control of your data to a custodian you trust in exchange for said custodian promising its careful curation is a trade-off that most people would find acceptable. Some won't, and I respect that, but the advocacy above might be counterproductive to most people who take it and try hosting their own email servers.

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Just got this from the ProtonMail team: > Dear ProtonMail user, Starting at around 4:30PM New York (10:30PM Zurich), Gmail suffered a global outage. A catastrophic failure at Gmail is causing emails sent to Gmail to permanently fail and bounce back. The error message from Gmail is the following: 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. This is a global issue, and it impacts all email provid…

This is the Nightmare Scenario for mailing lists. Many of them auto-unsubscribe after a bounce.

Good. I was hoping this was the case. Unfortunately I already moved to fastmail so there will be little benefit to me.

Re: Gmail having issues

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As quite a few googlers appear to read and write on HN, I'd really welcome an insider info on what's going on the last few days. Sure there will be some internal turmoil going on right now, but isn't there some non-confidential info to share? Can't imagine this will hurt the image of google neither in the short nor long run, quite the opposite.

I don’t work at Google, I’m at a different big tech that’s in the news frequently. Sharing inside info on an ongoing incident is a great way to get fired. Big tech companies are way different than startups where everyone can do a bit of anything. There are people whose job it is to handle that communication. You make their job a lot harder if you disclose information. The company is so big that as an engineer you may…

I am very pleased to see this response, genuinely. Our Technical Curiosity aside, there are literally people and teams in such big firms dedicated for this.

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It seems that Gmail is no longer a priority of Google, which is actually reasonable. Email provider is hardly a growing business anymore, and the market is also full of small players. How much gmail user will bother to transfer to other services? Even paying ones? I think minimal. When will Gmail be irrelevant? Probably when email is irrelevant.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I reeeeally don't want to go down this rathole but a few days ago when my kids were having problems connecting to YouTube on both wifi and LTE I had begun to think that Trump pulled the 1. Stop Internet, 2. Attempt Coup thing.

While, unlike many other people, I do _not_ believe Trump is an idiot, or even dumb at all, I do not believe he has any knowledge of how to stop the internet even if he wanted to. Plus, how would he send tweets if no internet? I think he likes being able to use Twitter more than he likes being President.

My cursory understanding of the whole "internet going dark" conspiracy is that this would not be used by Trump, but be used by the shadow government in co-operation with "Big Tech" in order to create panic and confusion amongst the masses so they can't organise, feel helpless and ultimately ask for "big government" and "big tech" to step in and save them.

For whatever reason, gp seems to be under the impression that it's Trump who would use this to his own advantage, which is not consistent with the prevailing conspiracy theories.

Re: Gmail having issues

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Email sender here (on behalf of about 2.5 million domains). We noticed the issue and mitigated it by transforming the 5xx error into a 4xx error so that messages to Google are re-queues instead of being permfailed. But even with this intervention, the ticket volume was insane...

Thanks for being proactive on behalf of your users.
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