Provided how bad it’s AI is, would be even feasible for them to fix it?
CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
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Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#172I completed it twice -more out of boredom and getting my money's worth than actual enjoyment- and my biggest complaint is that the game is totally dumb and a complete waste of time to those more philosophically inclined. It feels like a throwback to the dumbest action games of the 90s: here's a main story and a bunch of quests that you'll be completing on railtracks. Your choices don't really matter, the world is emp…
What would be a good example of a game that would satisfy the philosophically inclined?
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#173I completed it twice -more out of boredom and getting my money's worth than actual enjoyment- and my biggest complaint is that the game is totally dumb and a complete waste of time to those more philosophically inclined. It feels like a throwback to the dumbest action games of the 90s: here's a main story and a bunch of quests that you'll be completing on railtracks. Your choices don't really matter, the world is emp…
> I completed it twice ... There is no emergent gameplay which is simply unacceptable
getting some really mixed signals here
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#174I see CDPR being bashed a lot and I wanted to chip in: I bought the game on release day on GOG and am playing it on a Macbook Pro via Geforce Now. It's running very well for me. I've had 0 crashes. Very few glitches, and if, then they were cosmetic i.e. didn't cause any gameplay problems†. The visuals are absolutely amazing. Combat is very nice. The skill tree is interesting. Night city is beautifully immersive and t…
So far on PC I’ve had a crash right after the character editor that caused the game to crash every time I open it. The next day a patch was pushed that fixed it. I could’ve even play on Day 1. Dum Dum followed me around until I met Keanu’s character. He would move in front of people during cutscenes and I couldn’t even tell what was going on. Sometimes he would attack Jackie during combat and other times help us. The…
Haha, I had the same Dum Dum glitch as you.
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#175There are game companies where salaries are not paid until a release is delivered.
that's the sort of claim that really needs to be substantiated with any sort of evidence whatsoever.
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#176So, what sales-related project management questions for the CD Projekt Management Board does this answer for the HN crowd? Are people upset that this AAA game that is trying do everything on all devices for a huge audience doesn't perform well on the last-gen consoles on it's initial rollout?
Last-gen consoles? If it wasn't for the most recent delay of release date, Cyberpunk 2077 would've been released before PS5 and the new Xbox were even available for purchase. You're acting like people are trying to play this game on an NES. If the game ain't gonna work on a certain console, don't sell it for that console. Plain and simple. Or if you're going to release it anyway, at least let gaming critics review it…
The developers essentially transformed the game from a current gen to a next gen title between 2018 and 2020.
Compare the 2018 version to the release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogihi-OewPQ
They probably should've just come out and said they're not releasing the game for the last gen after all, and people would have been somewhat more understanding.
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't game much you made be blind to the fact that the gameplay is a poor, and the AI is about 15 years behind the cutting edge (GTA SA was more advanced)
I personally haven't seen a single FPS beating the AI of FEAR back in the day. I honestly don't expect anything anymore. It's been so long. Cyberpunk 2077 is a bit worse than other FPS of our time. But all are worse than FEAR anyway. This comment doesn't include things like traffic AI. Only combat.
FEAR AI is excellent:
https://alumni.media.mit.edu/~jorkin/goap.html
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#178CD Project forced their employees to crunch to get a game out, missed deadlines, and shipped a game that is buggy on some definition of last-gen hardware. Assuming all that is true: how is this news? This essentially describes every ambitious, genre defining game for the last 35 years. As someone who tearfully tried to play Doom on a 286, I have some sympathy but the level of outrage is hard for me to understand.
In my experience playing the game on a PS4 Pro (does that qualify as a last-gen console? Not sure), I have experienced no game breaking bugs or performance issues that warrant the level of criticism here. Instead I have been blown away by the level of detail and beauty of the world they created and I personally am over the moon with the fact the game that I had been eagerly awaiting exceeds my expectations for it.
Congrats CD Projekt, take a vacation, give some bonuses, let people upgrade their 5 year old hardware and chill out.
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Playing it on PC and I'm really enjoying it. There seem to be two factions: Anyone who expected a GTA like open world game has to be severely disappointed. But if you're there for the story and Cyberpunk look & feel, you'll have a good time. Of course, this excludes the console issues. Console players got shafted. CD Project might be able to fix that to some degree, but the reputational damage is done.
PC here, agree it's fun and I think some people are definitely expecting GTA from a developer that has absolutely no experience making something like GTA. GTA is GTA because Rockstar perfected the formula and the engine over several iterations of the game. I'm sure every GTA is a mountain of work to create, but its a considerably smaller mountain than starting from scratch. But putting GTA aside, I don't think CDPR e…
Some people spent hours in No Man's Sky too. The cost per hour only matters if you can put up with 'flaws'.
Most expected the latest and greatest, what they got was not that. Every hype/drop cycle is the same, but this cycle is filled with more valid complaints than normal, depressingly.
People felt burnt on Oblivion in 2013 because it was boring green forests and unappealing face design. That game pretty much worked for hundreds of hours of content. Cyberpunk can't even get the basic mechanics right.
Re: CD Projekt Conference Call with the Management Board [pdf] (Dec 14)
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's centuries worth of legislation about equity. You can still get screwed, but "I'm giving you the right to own shares in this company" means something in the eyes of the law. Getting paid in participation tokens doesn't.
You can be employee #2 of a startup, receive a lot of stock early on and then see it dillute to fractions of a cent. Perfectly legal.
This happened to me back in the 90's.
Company 1: The company went bankrupt, founder renamed the company, started a new company with the same name as the original, transferred some assets for pennies on the dollar. It later went public, but collapsed in the dot-com crash.
Company 2: Company raised $50 million during the dot-com boom. After 5 or so years, it still did not have much revenue to speak of. After several down rounds, it was eventually was sold to a major corporation for pennies on the dollar. All common stock was worthless.
Company 3: Still working on it. There have been several down rounds. All employees got their options re-issued at the lower price after a key employee threatened to walk...